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  • No Means No

    by Mike Coffey

    My mother is one of those social souls for whom exiting a party is three times the effort of entering. She’ll say she’s leaving, then run into someone on the way to the door. 10 minutes later, the process repeats. Eventually she finds her way out, but it usually involves half a tank of gas used up by my father, who had found his way to the car right after mom’s initial pronouncement.

    Having observed this phenomenon for over 40 years, I’m quick to recognize it when I see it elsewhere … like in Notre Dame’s repeated dalliances with the Big Ten conference (or, as I prefer to call them, the Integer). Having dodged this bullet in 1998, we now find ourselves looking down the barrel of the same gun, with the conference recently announcing a renewed effort to find a 12th member and participate in a championship game.

    Like Michael Corleone, just when we think we’re out, they pull us back in.

    While we’re sometimes accused of tilting at windmills on this topic, Irish athletic director Jack Swarbrick isn’t helping matters. While professing loyalty to the independent state of Notre Dame’s football program, his statements to the press are peppered with phrases like “we’d sure like to try to maintain [independence]“, which is now thought of as a “strong preference” that must be balanced with “implications” in the “industry” of college football while “scenarios play out”.

    Sounds a lot like those non-denial denials that were so in vogue during our two-week football coaching search. And like Oklahoma fans three weeks ago, we’re a little uneasy.

    With the Chicago Tribune endlessly beating the drum of Integer assimilation, columnist-by-default David Haugh can’t resist chiming in either. A decade of reading his work has taught me that, while he may be erudite on a number of subjects, to call him semi-educated on the topic of Notre Dame and what makes it tick would be overrating him by several orders of magnitude. So for David (since I know he just tingles to read my stuff) and anyone else who may be unclear on the concept, let’s review the issues.

    Many reasons exist for ND to remain a football independent, regardless of how the “industry” goes. But those reasons get thrown into sharp relief when applied to a conference like the Integer, and can be summed up in three words: Geography, Diversity, and Differentiation.

    Geography. Notre Dame sits square in the middle of the Integer’s geographic footprint, so at first glance, it might seem to be a good fit. But the value of Notre Dame’s brand (because, let’s face it, this is a money discussion more than anything) was built based on national appeal. There’s a reason update and op-ed columns regarding Notre Dame’s pursuit of Brian Kelly were written for or published in Tampa and New York City and Chicago and Boston and Los Angeles and Washington D.C. and Seattle and any number of other cities. You don’t waste column inches on stories in which no one is interested.

    But how long will that interest be maintained if the Fighting Irish end up playing 9 of their 12 games every year in a Midwest geographic footprint against other teams from that same footprint? Sure, a Notre Dame/Michigan game will pull in national interest for a while. But a steady diet of ND/Minnesota? ND/Iowa? ND/Northwestern? Why should people in Florida and California and New York and Washington care about those games? How soon before their disinterest shows and Notre Dame becomes yet another marginalized regional school, pushed further behind the eight-ball due to its small graduating classes relative to those geographic “peers”?

    Diversity. The Integer comprises ten large state universities and one private [edit] secular university. Outside of a desire for scholarship at the 20,000-foot level, Notre Dame has little, if anything, in common with any of them. Notre Dame graduates about two to three thousand people per year, while the Integer factory in total cranks out numbers in six figures. Notre Dame’s graduation rate for undergrads typically operates north of 95 percent, and its rates for student athletes leads the nation. The rates for most of the Integer schools, by comparison, are downright embarrassing.

    When you join a conference, the needs of the many supplant the needs of the few. Decisions get made by the majority, and with the masses of humanity on land-grant campuses who (based on the numbers) really don’t give a rip about the academic side of things when it comes to their athletes, Notre Dame will be subjected to a steady diet of being on the wrong end of 10-2 and 11-1 decisions. Michigan and Ohio State have owned the Integer lock, stock and barrel for long and long. That ain’t gonna change any time soon. The idea of voluntarily subjecting ourselves to their whims for 30 pieces of silver makes my brain hurt.

    Differentiation. When a recruit comes to Notre Dame’s campus, aside from being presented with the scholastic and spiritual ways in which Notre Dame is different from their competitors, they also see the opportunity to play a national schedule. Why limit yourself to games against your neighbors, the coaches can say, when you can play Southern Cal and Navy and Tennessee and Florida State and Pittsburgh and Oklahoma and Boston College and Arizona State, all of whom have appeared recently or will appear on future Notre Dame schedules? Why play just about all your games in flatland stadiums a bus ride away when you can play in Los Angeles, New York City, Washington D.C., Dallas, and Ireland? Granted, the 7-4-1 abomination is hurting Notre Dame in this area in the short term, but that’s a self-inflicted wound that could be healed up should the program desire.

    Think about how that discussion changes if Notre Dame joins the Integer. How would we differentiate ourselves from the Michigans and Ohio States of the world? We’d all be located in the same area of the country. We’d all play the same schedules. Why should they come to Notre Dame and have to apply themselves when they can just skate by as a Buckeye or Wolverine? Integer membership makes it all the more difficult to set ourselves apart from a rather low caliber of company, and this holds true not only for football but perhaps even more so for Notre Dame’s other sports.

    Those who favor conference membership have their mantras, of course. Haugh points out that “an independent Notre Dame team with two losses by midseason — the rule more than the exception lately — struggles to find motivation. A Big Ten team with two losses by midseason after expansion would have a shot to win its division and play in the lucrative conference title game.”

    What he fails to note is a two-loss Notre Dame team doesn’t
    deserve to play in a “lucrative conference title game” or any other high-profile contest. They should earn their way into those games like they always have in the past. The solution is to improve the product on the field so standards are met, not dumb down expectations to the point that a “conference title game appearance” is viewed as something to applaud.

    National Championships are remembered forever by the people who saw them. Conference titles are recorded on banners that everyone sees but no one looks at. The BCS gives mediocrities access to the championship structure by virtue of their membership in a particular group of teams. And yet those mediocrities scream about how Notre Dame gets “special treatment”, even though you’ll never see a 9-3 ND team even sniffing a BCS bid like Purdue and Stanford have in the past. Even Alanis Morisette would find that ironic.

    Notre Dame is a national brand because of the efforts of those who came before — Rockne, Leahy, Hesburgh, Joyce, Parseghian, Holtz. Joining the Integer will effectively undo those efforts more effectively than just about any choice I can fathom. Becoming a small regional school with a small regional following may be attractive to those who want the money but don’t want to make the effort, but to those alumni and fans who believe those heights can be reached, it smacks of being lazy and cheap, neither of which are words I want associated with my school.

    Let’s also not forget these people hate us. There’s no love lost between Notre Dame and any Integer school at any level, from the alumni and fans on up. The Integer and its members benefit from Notre Dame’s involvement much more than the other way around, and all they’re interested in is our money and the reflected attention they can get from us. If Joanna Barnes could make herself look like a crappy football stadium, it’d be a natural.

    So Jack, the next time a reporter or alumnus or anyone else asks you what Notre Dame’s interest in Integer membership is, there’s no reason to be complicated or to hedge. Keep it simple.

    “None”.

    The car is running, and gas is expensive these days.

    For those of you who might feel the need to print this out and mail it to our friend Jack, his address is:

    Jack Swarbrick
    Director of Athletics
    University of Notre Dame
    C113 Joyce Center
    Notre Dame, IN 46556

    Remember, every little bit helps, and snail mail always gets more attention. Forward it to your friends and encourage them to do the same.

    65 Responses to “No Means No”

    1. Joe Schaefer says:

      Considering the gravity of the scheduling issue, i.e., we join a conference (or form one)or, we do home-and-home with worthy opponents, I am surprised there has not been more dispute with regard to why Swarbrick seems to be hanging on with the 7-4-1 concept, especially since it has been such an abject failure. Anybody have any good reasons? Lastly, I am told that the last Navy "home game" negotiated by White gave ND a bigger share of the take (in Baltimore, I believe)than is normal because, it was Notre Dame! Thus, ND should get a bigger share of the gate because, the gate receipts would not have been any where as near as great had Navy put someone else on their schedule for that date. If so, Fr. Joyce, a staunch defender of the Navy series, would be rolling over in his grave.

      Joe Schaefer ND '59
      Universal City TX

    2. Anonymous says:

      I understand ND thinking, but why doesn't the B12 make sence?

      Geography: It would differentiate ND in B10 country as Different. They would not become "like" schools they are surrounded by, Pur Ind Minn, etc. ND would stand seperate from the rest.

      Recruiting: ND would be able to recruit B10 area, and also more nationally, and most importantly Texas. They would play games in the state of TX every year. As well as the Denver and Missouri (stl and KC) area. So ND would keep it's local B10 and east coat recruiting and open up new areas.

      Schedule: They would play a huge name w/ Nebraska every year.. and be able to compete for Championships every year in the north. With being in the same conference as OU, TX, A&M; and playing those schools every other year, but benefiting from being in a different division. Can still play service academies/USC/ and a B10 team every year.

      Basketball: ND would flow right in w/ KU Mizz KSU in the north. and a fit for all ND minor sports would flow.

      Championships: A one loss ND team that BEATS a TX or OU in B12 championship game will likely make a Nat'l Champ game. A 2 loss ND team beating OU or TX in B12 champ game would have strong consideration playing in Natl title game.

      It just seems ND wants to remain indy.. but the biggest fear is joining the B10 will cost ND it's aura and hold their recruiting base to a smaller geographic area. While the B12 actually opens mkts up for ND both recruting wise and still keeps an aura about ND sitting in B10 country. It keeps ND Unique.

    3. Mike, great analysis. Can't agree with you more … but lets assume the world is changing in a big, big way. A new normal if you will. Big 10, Pac 10 want new members. Big 12 has some less than desirables they took on just the be able to call themselves Big 12. The SEC has some schools even the most rabid of fans hate to travel to. The Big East, well forget about it. If ND wants to be a member of an influential group and not just another member institution of some existing geographically constraint affiliation, and wants to maintain its national significance, it should drive this process rather than be driven by it. My new normal world has a college football conference that has a truly national footprint. Imagine a new national conference that ND helps form that comes from a list like this:
      In addition to ND some geographically diverse mix of 11 other teams from a list like:
      Penn State, Alabama, Tennessee,Georgia, Florida, GaTech, Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Texas, TxA&M;, Oklahoma, Nebraska, USC, Stanford, Washington.
      It would taken a Herculean effort to put this together. Traditions would have to be tossed aside. Civil unrest may ensue in certain areas of the country. BUY the $$$ would be enouth to make the Vatican blush and its all about the $$$ afterall. IF ND moves toward a conference, let it be a conference of boldness, of significance and not one of the current offerings.

    4. Anonymous says:

      Notre Dame should jump on this pronto…but they probably won't due to pressure from alumni.

      ND needs to realize this isn't the 1970's, where you're practically the only option for those elite athletes that want to be seen on national TV. Dozens and dozens of teams now get regular TV coverage. Why should a big time recruit down south go up there to play? Why bust your a$& in the classroom, when you can play ball in the SEC, major in motorcycle safety, and go pro?

    5. This is something that both sides of this argument need to get through their heads. The Big Ten does not need Notre Dame at all, and Notre Dame doesn't need the Big Ten. This is a mutual lack of need, not one-sided in either direction. Notre Dame is currently doing just fine, and last I checked, the Big Ten is THE most lucrative conference in America.

      The list of institutions that are better fits for the Big Ten than Notre Dame is enormous. And that is just based on academic vision. Athletically, the Big Ten would be looking for a power in one of the two major sports, something that Notre Dame has failed to produce since the 1990's. This is not to disparage the Irish in any way. This is just the outside perception of the state of your institution's athletics. You can tell yourselves that you are relevant until you are blue in the face. To the nation at large, you are not. This is hard to accept. When the national championship is talked about yearly, the only people mentioning Notre Dame are Lou Holtz and Beano Cook. From outsiders, their opinions and credibility due to these baseless claims make them, at best, laughing stocks, and at worst, the people you feel sorry for.

      When the dominoes fall, and they will fall, if the Big Ten does destroy the Big East or if it's destroyed by the ACC, Notre Dame will have to make a choice. This choice will have, in the eyes of their fanbase and alumni, two equally negative outcomes. They can choose to join a conference and give up independence, or they can remain independent and slip further into mediocrity.

    6. Equally negative? Dude, get a clue…If you poll PSU alumni and fans (those that can remember) I think they will tell you that joining the Big 10 was the best thing that ever happened to that university….ND should feel lucky if it gets invited to the Big 10 yet again….

    7. Anonymous says:

      Unfortunately, this comment applies to far too many of you to mention. DO ANY OF YOU KNOW HOW TO SPELL???

      Please learn before to return to ranting about how much smarter you are than everyone else around you. It's embarrassing.

      Matt

    8. Anonymous says:

      Not sure you can find a more poorly constructed sentence than "Please learn before to return to ranting about how much smarter you are than everyone else around you."

    9. Anonymous says:

      Apparently you have not read most of the posts on this board.

    10. Anonymous says:

      Maybe you should look at the sentence you just wrote. I use the term loosely, insofar as it is not even a complete sentence.

      If you were criticizing me for my typo (I mistakenly typed the word "you" as "to"), then you are correct. I made a typo. I am not a trained secretary and typing is not my strength. However, my comment was not directed at people making typos but people using "here" for "hear" or incorrectly spelling words because they do not know how to spell. Generally, I would not have mentioned even the poor spelling, but it was just too much to let slide when the error-ridden rants turned to blasting others for their intellectual inferiority.

    11. Anonymous says:

      Growing up in the eastern Ohio Valley, I grew up a fan of ND and Ohio State. I love the ND tradition and school. I will admit that the OSU tradition has tarnished a bit with since the Bruce era. That is not a jab, just an observation. That being said, I can see both sides of conference alignment.

      First, the Big10 has lost it's credibility. The OSU win last season did not gain it back completely. It only stopped the belief that the only athletic benefit of being Big10 champ was the right to be humiliated on a national stage. However, the universities still get large bills for being invited.

      This is where I go after ND's 'ignorance'. If I am not mistaking, OSU has recently played IN Texas, IN SoCal, etc. Not all games are against neighbors w/in a bus ride distance. The Big12 has the model structure. They have teams in each division that have powerhouse-potential. They have the ability to have major non-con games home and away. They have huge rivalries built in division and in conference. This can be accomplished with the Big10+2. ND can still have its UM, MSU, and Purdue in-division rivalry. It can have alternating OSU, PSU, IU conference rivalry games. And it can still have non-con games against USC, BC, Navy, Miami, or whomever it wants to schedule. Oh and by the way, in stead of losing money on a trip to the Hawaii Bowl, maybe we can get a percentage of the automatic bids PLUS I bet the division champion can get some pretty good bids as well.

      Chris Chambers
      ND & Big10 Fan

    12. Anonymous says:

      Chris:

      I am a B10 fan not a ND fan, but otherwise, I agree with most of what you wrote. I also think ND is awfully quick to call out the B10 on its recent slide in football performance. ND would have been (at best) in the middle of the pack in the B10 the past few years. ND's schedule has been heavily watered down and they still can't make it to a bowl game (no, the Hawaii Bowl does not count as a bowl game — it is as much of a joke as the Pizza Bowl).

      ND should do whatever they feel is in their best interest. Stay independent. Join the Big East. Whatever. The B10 added PSU in the early 90's with great success. The B10 launched the B10 Network several years ago to even greater success. The B10 will expand again in the next couple of years and move forward, with or without ND, almost certainly to further success. The B10 is the #2 conference for academics (second only to the Ivy League) and runs neck and neck with the B12 and SEC for best overall athletic conference. If ND were in the B10, its graduate level academics would struggle to make the middle of the pack and its undergraduate academics would be behind NW and on a par with Michigan's. In terms of endowment, they would be around third or fourth.

      ND is on the very short list (with Texas) for invitation to the B10 almost solely because of its historical significance in one sport — football. With each passing year of mediocrity, ND's football cache declines. If I were ND, I would jump at the chance to join the B10 while the offer still exists. Regardless, the B10 will be adding 3-5 teams over the next few years (probably 2-3 from the Big East), all of which will be ecstatic to join. This will further enhance the B10 in athletics (and, hopefully, academics) and expand the B10's reach into the largest media market in the country — New York/NJ/Philly. Having ND as one of those three teams instead of, say, Syracuse or Pitt or Rutgers is a no brainer, but it is not essential. The past 20 years have proven that. ND's future without the B10 is far less clear.

    13. Anonymous says:

      Actually that poster's comment that corrected you Matt is correct. His post has an implied subject and is a complete sentence. It might be time to hand your ND degree back in Matt.

    14. Anonymous says:

      Wow, that is a handy rule. Anytime I leave out something, I will just say it was implied. In that case, I apologize to everyone with bad spelling and grammar. I am sure the correct spelling and grammar were implied. Btw, you are missing a comma after the word "actually". Must be implied.

      Note: I intentionally omitted the subject in my final sentence for effect. That is what you call an implied subject. In contrast, when you leave out the subject and don't even realize you did it because you do not know how to compose a sentence, that is called incorrect grammar. But, then, I am sure you knew that.

    15. Anonymous says:

      What are you ignorami talking about grammar on an ND football blog? You give all football fans a bad name. ND is about to make the worse mistake in it's history by joining a conference and all you care about is subject structure. Go back to your dictionary Nerds!

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