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Friday, November 21, 2008

Blue, Gold, Green & Orange

posted by John Vannie
Notre Dame concludes its home schedule on Saturday against the Syracuse Orange. This week has been designated as a “Green is Universal” celebration by NBC, where teams from Syracuse and Notre Dame will compete in various eco-challenges. The school that has the most team members making commitments to lead greener lives will win $10,000 to be used to enhance sustainability efforts on the winning campus. As for the football game, don’t be surprised if the Irish elect to wear green jerseys.

The Orange have struggled again this season, and coach Greg Robinson has been notified of his dismissal after four seasons at the helm. Syracuse stands at 2-7 with home victories over Louisville and Northeastern. Whereas teams that announce midseason coaching changes often struggle to finish the year on a positive note, Robinson is well respected by his players and he expects them to compete against Notre Dame. "It's the way they are," Robinson said. "It isn't so much me as it is them. They will play. There's no question in my mind."

One interesting story line is that Syracuse quarterback Cameron Dantley is the son of Irish basketball great and Hall of Famer Adrian Dantley. Speaking about his father, Cameron said, “He still talks about Notre Dame to this day. He watches Notre Dame. He gets along with a lot of his teammates that he had at Notre Dame as well. He loves the place. He had a great time when he was there and it was a big part of his life. He always has stories to tell about Notre Dame and what they're doing now."

The Irish are heavy favorites to win the game, although injuries have taken a toll on the team in recent weeks. Two key starters, wide receiver Michael Floyd and linebacker Brian Smith, were hurt against Navy and will miss the final two regular season contests. Notre Dame may have an opportunity to play in the Gator Bowl with a win this week, and participating in such a prestigious game would be a positive development in an otherwise up and down season.

Notre Dame Offense vs. Syracuse Defense

Robinson’s specialty is defense, so one can expect an aggressive game plan by the Orange against an Irish offense that has become stale of late. Jimmy Clausen has succumbed to pressure recently by throwing six interceptions in his last two games. The Syracuse pass rush is led by tackles Andre Jones and Nick Santiago. Notre Dame has shown some vulnerability to strong inside defenders, so this matchup will be interesting to watch.

The absence of Floyd will put pressure on David Grimes and Duval Kumara to pick up the slack. Tight end Kyle Rudolph has had limited success after a hot start, while Clausen has thrown more passes to Armando Allen out of the backfield. Teams are trying to take away the deep threat and have been successful to a large extent. As a result, Notre Dame’s point production has fallen a bit.

There is no reason why the Irish cannot continue to enjoy success in the running game. Syracuse has yielded more than 200 rushing yards per game and 5.2 yards per carry, which places it at 107th in the country in this category. The defense has been considerably less effective in the second and fourth quarters, indicating a lack of depth that can be exploited.

The linebackers for the Orange are athletic but not very big. Senior Jake Flaherty is flanked by sophomores Mike Mele and Derrell Smith. Free safety Bruce Williams leads the secondary with help from cornerback Mike Holmes, but the group has struggled as evidenced by its #72 national ranking against the pass. By comparison, Notre Dame’s pass defense ranks 22nd nationally.

Syracuse’s Offense vs. Notre Dame’s Defense

Dantley has experienced some difficulty in the second half of this season and is now sharing the signal calling responsibilities with Andrew Robinson. At this point, Coach Robinson has not revealed his starter against Notre Dame, but it may not matter. Last week against UConn, the pair completed only six of 23 passes for 51 yards and threw three interceptions, one of which was returned for a touchdown. Syracuse quarterbacks had thrown nine touchdown passes and three interceptions in the first seven games of the season. Since then they are 11-for-42 for 86 yards and no TDs with three interceptions.

The Orange does have a legitimate running threat in tailback Curtis Brinkley. The senior continues the tradition of outstanding backs at Syracuse and has 992 yards on the season. He is the player the Irish must stop in order to force the Orange into passing situations where turnovers will be waiting to happen.

Leading the way for Brinkley are right guard Ryan Durand and right tackle Corey Chavers. The 152 yards per game on the ground despite trailing in most games is a testament to their ability and the need to get the ball in Brinkley’s hands. Truthfully, the Orange do not have many other weapons.

The top receiver is Donte Davis with 27 catches, while tight end Mike Owen is second in receptions at 17. Syracuse barely completes 50% of its passes and does not have any long plays to its credit. Despite the loss of Brian Smith, Notre Dame should be able to play aggressively against the run and still be able to effectively defend the pass.

Special Teams

Both the punter and place kicker for Syracuse are highly regarded players. Patrick Shadle has converted 12 of 14 field goal attempts, including a 53-yarder. Rob Long is the punter with an impressive 46 yard average. The return and coverage teams are decidedly mediocre, but Holmes has returned a kickoff for a touchdown this season.

Notre Dame continues to have special teams issues, the last episode coming against Navy where two onside kick attempts by the Midshipmen were botched by the Irish “hands” team. Punter Eric Maust has been inconsistent in the past few weeks, suffering one blocked punt and a few shanks. The brightest spot in this area for Notre Dame may be the improvement of kicker Brandon Walker, who is now a fan favorite after hearing boos earlier in the season.

Summary

Syracuse is not a very dynamic football team, and no one knows how they will perform on Saturday as Robinson’s firing begins to sink in. The opportunity to play at Notre Dame is bound to fire up the team initially, but they do not have the aerial game or quality of personnel to compete with an improving Irish defense for 60 minutes. Brinkley will hit the 1,000 yard mark for the season but that may be the only highlight for the Orange.

Notre Dame should not have to throw the ball more than 15-20 times, and these should be high percentage passes as was the case last week. The traditional Senior Day and possible donning of the green jerseys should help the Irish get going and try to put any Syracuse hopes to rest early. The game should present another opportunity for Coach Charlie Weis to clear the bench, provided he has properly addressed the threat of an onside kick this week in practice.

Here are a few questions that will help decide the outcome this week:

Will Notre Dame be able to shut down Brinkley and force the Orange to throw the ball?
Can the interior of the Irish offensive line keep Jones and Santiago in check?
Will Irish rushers reach the Syracuse average surrender point of 200 yards on the ground?
Can Jimmy Clausen reestablish a downfield passing threat without Floyd?
Will David Bruton record an interception in his final ND appearance?
Will the Irish finish the game properly once they take the lead?

Prediction

Despite injuries and questions regarding the future of Weis at Notre Dame, the Irish should not be challenged after the first 20 minutes in this contest. The only suspense should be how well the team retains its focus and how soon the second teamers can take over without risk to the overall outcome. Oh yes, and whether or not the team will come out of the tunnel wearing green.

Notre Dame 34 Syracuse 13
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69 Comments:

Anonymous PghIrish said...

If they wear green jerseys against Syracuse, no matter what the reason, I have to seriously reconsider my love for this team. Hannah Storm(ND '83) was laughing at them on SC Now earlier this week. Global warming is the greatest con ever perpetrated on a seemingly intelligent population. You heard it here first.

11/21/2008 05:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, we better watch out for that kicker on special teams. A 112/14 record means he's completing approximately 800% of his field goals. That could really come back and hurt us. That means that for every field goal he attempts, Syracuse gets 24 points. Let's watch out for that.

Wow, I didn't realize it was Jackass Friday. Go Irish!

11/21/2008 07:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PghIrish said...
If they wear green jerseys against Syracuse, no matter what the reason, I have to seriously reconsider my love for this team. Hannah Storm(ND '83) was laughing at them on SC Now earlier this week. Global warming is the greatest con ever perpetrated on a seemingly intelligent population. You heard it here first.




What a stupid comment. You are not a true Irish fan, you are just a moron.

11/21/2008 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ND, Inc. in full effect...

11/21/2008 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A 112/14 record means he's completing approximately 800% of his field goals.

Yeah, these guys get their facts wrong all the time. Don't even know what is considered a reception.

11/21/2008 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Global warming is the greatest con ever perpetrated on a seemingly intelligent population."


Hmm, I don't know if it is the greatest. I would have to say it's religion convincing people that there's an invisible man living in the sky!

Or how about the American government convincing the majority of Americans that 19 people in a cave successfully orchestrated the 9/11 and pentagon attacks?

Go Irish!!

11/21/2008 08:56:00 AM  
Blogger Dirish74 said...

"You're not a true Irish fan, you are just a moron."

By the looks of the boards this week I don't think there is much difference.

Jesus is going to coach the team if we make him a good enough offer.

But will he run the ball enough?

If not, I am withholding my donation and boycotting every game.

I will however continue to post even though I haven't watched.

11/21/2008 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"By the looks of the boards this week I don't think there is much difference."

Yes, very hard to distinguish fans and foes these days.

11/21/2008 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Notre Dame may have an opportunity to play in the Gator Bowl with a win this week, and participating in such a prestigious game would be a positive development in an otherwise up and down season.

Does he mean positive development since it will help line our coffers?

Because it's looking like either Miami or FSU, and another bowl loss.

11/21/2008 09:05:00 AM  
Anonymous PghIrish said...

Anonymous, I have missed one ND game in my adult life, on my wedding day, Michigan in '97. Caught part of the 2nd half in the lounge at the reception hall. The green jersey ploy has been beaten, literally, to death, and is flat out EMBARRASSING to us true ND fans. This is the kind of thing that causes our detractors to laugh out loud about. I know, because I am surrounded by Pitt and Penn State fans. By the way, it's very brave to call someone a moron from behind the anonymous mask on a message board.

11/21/2008 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

after watching Miami last night, you are still willing to chalk that one up as a loss?

11/21/2008 09:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scheduling a wedding on a game day makes you a moron. With that said, missing ND beat defending national champs Michigan was likely punishment enough.

11/21/2008 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to agree with PghIrish. This whole green/global warming is a hoax perpetrated by a certain individual who shall remain nameless. This green game is a NBC ploy just like when they shut the lights out in their sports studio. Let's not mix hoaxes with the tradition of ND fotball. Looking forward to seeing a 60 minute complete game by the Irish.

11/21/2008 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Global warming a ploy? God, you people are ignorant.

I agree about the green jerseys, though. It's time to put them to bed for a few years.

11/21/2008 09:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why doesn't everyone stop worrying about politics and green jerseys and talk about football. Are you really a true ND fan if you will no longer love and support the team because of the jersey they wear on a particular day? There are plenty of other blogs to discuss your conspiracies.

As for the religion comment; God, Country, Notre Dame. In the event you were not aware, the University of Notre Dame is a private CATHOLIC University. Maybe you should be a Miami or FSU fan? Additionally, FSU and Miami? They are not very impressive and ND should be able to give either one a good game.

11/21/2008 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ACross wears a green merkin!

11/21/2008 10:06:00 AM  
Blogger Dee said...

If the team wants to wear the Green jerseys, let them. It's their last home game and they are the ones who have been working since August. Who cares, as long they recognize this is their last chance to reclaim some glory in front of a home crowd.

11/21/2008 10:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Vannie, did you read what Swarbrick said about Charlie? I believe he answered the "questions about the future of CW as the Head Coach at Notre Dame.

We play in the Gator and extend our NCAA Record of bowl losses to TEN (10). WHY???

Let's get that damn monkey off our back and bowl in a winnable situation. To hell with the payout.

GO IRISH BEAT THE HELL OUT OF SYRACUSE.

11/21/2008 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We play in the Gator and extend our NCAA Record of bowl losses to TEN (10). WHY???

Let's get that damn monkey off our back and bowl in a winnable situation. To hell with the payout."

See, these are the so called fans I was referring to.

Yeah, let's go play the Missouri Valley Correctional College Junior Varsity team, yeah maybe we could beat them and end that losing streak.

You people make me sick!

11/21/2008 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone needs to just STFU. We will beat Syracuse, we will keep it close versus USC (I wouldn't be surprised if we pulled the upset), we'll win our bowl game, we'll will win a BCS bowl next year, and the Nattie in 2010. Then maybe all you so called fans will realize that Charlie Weis was the best thing that ever happened to Notre Dame. Go Irish!

11/21/2008 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"after watching Miami last night, you are still willing to chalk that one up as a loss?"

Yep, GT is no Washington, Stanford, Syracuse, San Diego State, Michigan, Purdue, or Navy.

GT = Real Team

11/21/2008 11:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a lifelong fan, but I will not be very happy unless ND runs away with this game: Syracuse is *terrible*. ND has only beaten one team that's even decent: Navy. In any case, I'd prefer not to see the Green jerseys - save them for a big, meaningful game.

BTW, Global Warming is a *fact*; it's what the *cause* of it is that's being debated. The vast majority of climatologists support the theory that it's anthropogenic, while some others disagree. There will be no definitive proof either way until long after we're all dead, so if you want certainty, go elsewhere. If you want an example of a great hoax for certain, try cigarettes.

11/21/2008 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

charlie has begun a trend of having the team wear green jerseys for the final home game. i think it's a good way to celebrate the senior class. i feel like nbc is just tagging along with a valuable promotion of the importance of greening. regardless of the truth of global warming, we should still be proactive in preserving the planet. why be so negative about it? why be so negative about the jerseys? we're not nike whores like oregon and fsu. if you ask me, this new "gimmick" of wearing green on senior day is just as hokey as donning them for a big game. nothing will ever match the trojan horse/green jersey game. there's no point in comparing any other green jersey game to that.

11/21/2008 01:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PGHIRISH. I am from pittsburgh too my man. North Hills, right off of mcknight road. So I am surrounded by the same idiots that you are. A TRUE ND fan doesnt give a shit about what others may say about our team. Let them wear green. Let the seniors go out with a bang. What is the big deal? Global Warming a con? You have too much time on your hands pal.

11/21/2008 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kind of sad reading these today. I've never written before, but read every week. Born and raised (brainwashed, possibly) die-hard Irish, and I think that means a lot more than a football fan. I'm so proud of what we stand for, and what we believe. CW, even if we do suck next year (I just don't see that being the case) is a helluva man, and I respect the things he's done these years.

11/21/2008 02:05:00 PM  
Anonymous www.southbendblarney.com said...

Just gotta stomp Syracuse. ND has to gain confidence in this game-somebody (new or forgotten) needs to show that they can make plays and take some pressure off Tate.

The Defense looks to be improving, but we won't know until USC. My guess is that the D will have trouble against a decent offense.

11/21/2008 02:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"CW, even if we do suck next year (I just don't see that being the case) is a helluva man, and I respect the things he's done these years."

Oh please, oh please, tell me what he has done on the football field. Let's leave the high recruiting classes and great charity work at home, nothing matters but Ws and Ls. Not enough W's. That's all there is to it.

His record is that of Davie and Wilingham. Were you praising those two guys?

11/21/2008 04:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"His record is that of Davie and Willingham. Were you praising those guys?"

Remember "Pass Right"? Not many men would have done that. Pretty damn great moment for that family forever. Was just saying I respect that. Ws and Ls definitely matter, but you are crazy if you think recruiting doesn't matter.

11/21/2008 08:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

holtz left davie a team that was loaded ty was a terrible recruiter that's why he got fired look at washington that would be nd if ty was still here cw is mending old fences on the recruiting trail and the future looks bright so what's the problem. i know the problem you nd alums are the arrogant spoiled little brats. psu 85 go nd go psu

11/21/2008 08:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not if you don't win, recruiting doesn't mean a thing.

Willingham couldn't recruit, yet he and Wies have almost identical win-loss percentages.

It doesn't matter who's on the team, it's who wins and loses.

Charlie has not won. Period.

I'm glad he's a good man. There are a lot of good men in this world. I want a good football coach.

11/21/2008 08:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OMG, a Penn State fan taking up for Charlie. I've seen it all. Get off our board troll, we can criticize our own.

11/21/2008 08:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ty wrecked the ship 2 horrible recruiting years in a row and you want a nc immediately. very unreasonable i thought nd alums were suppose to be so smart i guess there is grade ainflation at nd too.go nd psu85

11/21/2008 08:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

psu grade lifelong nd fan.psu85 p

11/21/2008 08:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, that was 4 years ago, not 2, like everyone wants to believe. You must have a short memory too.

No, I don't need a NC, I would just like to beat a few teams with winning records for starters.

I don't think that's too unreasonable. If Wies was at PSU, you would have wanted him long gone by now.

11/21/2008 08:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you midwest sissy boys can't take the brutal truth cw spews so you call him arrogant.the guys in the midwest have the emotions of little girls. psu85

11/21/2008 08:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if you feel nd has no fight it's because they have to sit in class with all you little sissyboys from nd

11/21/2008 08:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, I think we have seen enough of the brutal truth that is Charlie Weis. We do appreciate your interest in ND football.

11/21/2008 08:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are you guys in third grade? You going to make fun of my mommy? You going to beat me up and take my lunch moeny?

11/21/2008 08:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so who you gonna get if they fire cw nobody wants to coach nd anymore and you punkass alums are part of the reason.p.s the real rebuilding started last year.psu fans have wanted paternos head for 25 years.

11/21/2008 09:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think cw is hot. nd boytoy

11/21/2008 09:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it seems like bill parcells and bellicheck think cw can coach i think they know alittle more than the rest of us.p.s pro coaches all over the league say that when a cw coaced player comes out of college he's prepared for the nfl i think that comes down to coaching

11/21/2008 09:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great, they can't win in college, but gosh darn, they'll make great pros.

Get a life, you're post are senseless.

11/21/2008 09:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bellichek and the Patriots really struggled last year without Charlie. Hmmmm, I wonder if Charlie wishes he had a few tapes to look at now. Please spare me the man of integrity garbage.

11/21/2008 09:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no they are coched well they just don't have enough bodies in the upperclass now. i can see you never played football and don't know the value of upperclassmen to pave the way for younger players.why don't you go hang out at the grotto. because that's the only thing you can do on campus or get some balls and come hang in chicago

11/21/2008 09:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, hear we go on the no upperclassman. We have upperclassman based on what you say, we should play them. Our class in 2005 was better than Texas Tech's. How they doing? Spare me the young stuff. If we are young, it's because our recruits in 2005 and 2006 are not good. Charlie was the man. Spare me, oh, poor us, were so young.

We suck, plain and simple. Charlie sucks. Floyd is our only good player and is hurt.

11/21/2008 09:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If anyone believes our O line is well coached, they need to join us in reality.

11/21/2008 09:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, you may want to look at our special teams too.

11/21/2008 09:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we don't suck you suck.you're on campus go tell cw to his face or are you afraid to.

11/21/2008 09:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAHAHAHAHAHA

You guys are in third grade. I thought there would be some good discourse over here, but there appears to be no erudite folk at all.

11/21/2008 09:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lets get fitzgerald from northwestern. that's were our last real coach was from

11/21/2008 09:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

actually i'm in eighth grade nd fans are easy

11/21/2008 09:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if floyd is your only good player i guess your coach is ok i don't know any div 1 coaches that can win with only 1 good player

11/21/2008 09:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

smoke a joint go to the grotto then go get laid ndnation just chill out keep the faith go nd

11/21/2008 09:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nd 38 cuse 10

11/21/2008 10:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Ferrell Pig said...

Who left the Cook County Correctional Facility computer lab open? Get to talking football or back in your cells, you primates.

11/22/2008 12:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you talking to me?

11/22/2008 01:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm in joliet

11/22/2008 01:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you people don't even know when you are being emulated just having fun with your silly little mind you are getting a mindfu@k ?

11/22/2008 01:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can the band get off their asses and beat some damn drums between plays. I'm tired of feeling like I'm watching an LPGA tournament.

11/22/2008 04:04:00 AM  
Anonymous PghIrish said...

PSU guy, I think I'm your next door neighbor. Thank you, all you anonymous's for setting me straight. I will now go buy some cap and trade credits. Go Irish - Smash the 'Cuse! The team needs emotional leaders who can keep them from looking like they are at a PGA event when standing on the sidelines. Oh, and we lost to Michigan that day in '97 by a touchdown. Look it up.

11/22/2008 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go Orange. Syracuse -36 ND -14

11/22/2008 10:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again, I can't believe anyone here thought a Clausen to Quinn comparison was reasonable. Michael Floyd is the offense and with him out, we have 6 points as I write this with 2 mins left in the 1st half. The fact that Weis won't let Clausen take shots down the field shows that he has no confidence in his signal caller. 5 yards per pass attempt against a 2-win team? If Sharpley started this game, we'd win by 20.

One can only ponder the promises Weis made to the Clausen family to get Clausen to commit. There's no way he's our best option at QB right now.

11/22/2008 03:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm wrong we suck

11/22/2008 04:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

classless fans throwing snowballs at your own you deserve nothing as i said your are a bunch of overprivlidged assholes

11/22/2008 05:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DUMP WEIS

11/22/2008 06:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever patience I was preaching about before just left every ounce of my body. GOOD RIDDINGS CHARLIE AND COMPANY!! Let's just hope our current recruits will hang on and see who we get for a coach before jumping ship! I hope the university turns down any bowl invitations we might get and give it to someone who deserves it.

11/22/2008 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While an SU football that was some bad football by 2 bad teams. And ND for such a supposedly elite institution of higher learning, nice job pelting your team, your media meal ticket and local law enforcement with football. Welcome to the depths of college football.

11/22/2008 06:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time to dump Front Butt!

11/22/2008 06:32:00 PM  
Blogger SU Tradition 44 said...

While an SU football that was some bad football by 2 bad teams. And ND for such a supposedly elite institution of higher learning, nice job pelting your team, your media meal ticket and local law enforcement with snowballs. Welcome to the depths of college football.

11/22/2008 06:34:00 PM  

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