Pat Fits? Don't Think So
posted by Mike Coffey
I was working on the (very tardy) headlines this evening when a Sun Times entry caught my eye:
PAT's no irish tap dancer
The folks at the Kiddie Paper, as my grandfather used to call them, aren't really good at indicating what their articles are about via the headlines, so I opened it up to see if I needed to link it. All I saw was a blurb about an alleged recruiting visit Northwestern coach Pat Fitzgerald took to Notre Dame in 1992.
I say "alleged" because I had a hard time believing any of it ever happened. Coach Fitzgerald's father recounts a young man who had "done his homework" asking whether there was a rule at Notre Dame that forced you to live with the people you were assigned until graduation, unless you "got married and moved off campus". When Lou Holtz and his assistants "tap-danced around the answer", the young Fitzgerald decided Notre Dame was not the place for him.
Let's be clear: the forced living arrangement described by Mr. Fitzgerald was not a rule at Notre Dame when I graduated in 1991. It was not a rule at Notre Dame when my father graduated in 1966. So if this represents the depth of "homework" young Pat did before his visit, in true Crossian fashion, I give the assignment an F.
While I obviously was not at this alleged meeting during the alleged visit, I fail to see why the coaches would have to "tap dance around the answer". The answer is simple: No. Perhaps they tap-danced around what even asking such a question says about the intellectual capacity (or the agenda) of the questioner, but the answer is an easy one and the coaches in the room were not fools. I can't envision a scenario where "tap-dancing" would have been required.
Questionable fact-checking aside, I couldn't figure out what would lead Jim O'Donnell to write such a thing in the first place. Obviously he had done an interview for a banner story with the old man and this was some kind of sidebar, but why would ND be relevant? My only clue lay in the first paragraph:
Google is, as always, my friend, so I punched in "Pat Fitzgerald Notre Dame" and looked for news. A good number of the links on the first page sent me back to the Sun Times, links suggesting the existence of a brou-ha-ha regarding Pat Fitzgerald being considered by Notre Dame for the head coaching position.
Huh?
Sure, more than a couple names came up in the wake of the Syracuse and Southern Cal debacles, but Fitzgerald's wasn't one of them. Northwestern certainly had a nice season in a very down Integer this year, but if there is a list in Jack Swarbrick's drawer, Fitzgerald would be lucky to make page two.
From whence did this come? Best I can tell is one of two places.
Another of O'Donnell's articles quotes Beano Cook as saying Fitzgerald was under consideration. Beano, who is still waiting on Ron Powlus' first Heisman, is still trying to make money in the prognostication business. Google failed me on anything written down, so the best I can guess is he blorphed it out during a video segment.
Meanwhile, or perhaps in response, Sun Times scribe Rick Telander threw something together saying he thought Fitzgerald would be a good candidate. We had linked the article when it came out, but I'd missed the Fitzgerald reference at the end. O'Donnell interpreted this as a "growing chorus" saying Fitzgerald should take the job, the Northwestern Scout kids wet their pants over it, and it took off from there.
I remained flummoxed. Beano Trelawney is who he is, of course, but what's Telander's game, and why is O'Donnell riding saddle with no horse like this? Better yet, why is he writing about non-existent Notre Dame rules in a newspaper, even the Sun Times?
And then, epiphany. 17 days early.
Northwestern is one of the few schools out there that, like Notre Dame, knows academics is not a four-letter word when it comes to athletics. Their high standards are laudable, but, as ND fans know, come at the price of a shallower talent pool from which to draw. When ND is running on a full mixture, like Duke in basketball, it tends to dominate that pool.
This certainly is a detriment to Fitzgerald, especially with Notre Dame coming into Illinois and grabbing players like Steve Filer, Darius Fleming, Robert Hughes, and Sergio Brown. Even walk-on-cum-special-teams-monster Mike Anello bears a Land of Lincoln pedigree. Northwestern doesn't recruit nationally to the extent ND does, so the Fighting Irish cherry-picking Chicago talent would hurt Fitzgerald sooner or later.
How to fight against it? If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Notre Dame is thinking about hiring this guy? Hey, I should just go play for him now if ND thinks he's that good!
Telander's a Northwestern alumnus, and there'd be no point in destabilizing his alma mater's coaching staff for something as ephemeral as this Fitzgerald-to-ND garbage, especially considering he was one of the people who created it out of whole cloth. Ah, but if he knows there's little chance it's actually going to happen and can couch it in such a way that makes Fitzgerald look good at Charlie Weis' expense? That's gold, Jerry.
O'Donnell's the beat writer, he wants access just as much as anyone else does. What better way to get it than to do the boss man a favor and suggest some non-existent "rules" at ND along with a non-denial denial. As long as he doesn't actually lie and say it's true, he's well into the safe gray area. We Catholics call that area a "sin of omission".
Dragging dear old dad into this farce is borderline reprehensible on all of their parts. But as a dad myself, I know you want to see your kids succeed, so I don't blame him too much.
Rising above it all, the young Pat gets to be magnanimous, talking about how he'd be "honored if ND considered him" (easy to say when they're not). Now he can walk into recruits' living rooms and shake his head ruefully about the "rumors" (started in a hometown paper by an alumnus and the beat writer) and what that might "say" about the quality of his coaching and the stability at Notre Dame.
Well done, boys. Very well done.
If only any of it were true.
PAT's no irish tap dancer
The folks at the Kiddie Paper, as my grandfather used to call them, aren't really good at indicating what their articles are about via the headlines, so I opened it up to see if I needed to link it. All I saw was a blurb about an alleged recruiting visit Northwestern coach Pat Fitzgerald took to Notre Dame in 1992.
I say "alleged" because I had a hard time believing any of it ever happened. Coach Fitzgerald's father recounts a young man who had "done his homework" asking whether there was a rule at Notre Dame that forced you to live with the people you were assigned until graduation, unless you "got married and moved off campus". When Lou Holtz and his assistants "tap-danced around the answer", the young Fitzgerald decided Notre Dame was not the place for him.
Let's be clear: the forced living arrangement described by Mr. Fitzgerald was not a rule at Notre Dame when I graduated in 1991. It was not a rule at Notre Dame when my father graduated in 1966. So if this represents the depth of "homework" young Pat did before his visit, in true Crossian fashion, I give the assignment an F.
While I obviously was not at this alleged meeting during the alleged visit, I fail to see why the coaches would have to "tap dance around the answer". The answer is simple: No. Perhaps they tap-danced around what even asking such a question says about the intellectual capacity (or the agenda) of the questioner, but the answer is an easy one and the coaches in the room were not fools. I can't envision a scenario where "tap-dancing" would have been required.
Questionable fact-checking aside, I couldn't figure out what would lead Jim O'Donnell to write such a thing in the first place. Obviously he had done an interview for a banner story with the old man and this was some kind of sidebar, but why would ND be relevant? My only clue lay in the first paragraph:
In recruiting myth and lore, Pat Fitzgerald crafted his Hall of Fame linebacking career at Northwestern only after Notre Dame declined to offer him a scholarship.
Google is, as always, my friend, so I punched in "Pat Fitzgerald Notre Dame" and looked for news. A good number of the links on the first page sent me back to the Sun Times, links suggesting the existence of a brou-ha-ha regarding Pat Fitzgerald being considered by Notre Dame for the head coaching position.
Huh?
Sure, more than a couple names came up in the wake of the Syracuse and Southern Cal debacles, but Fitzgerald's wasn't one of them. Northwestern certainly had a nice season in a very down Integer this year, but if there is a list in Jack Swarbrick's drawer, Fitzgerald would be lucky to make page two.
From whence did this come? Best I can tell is one of two places.
Another of O'Donnell's articles quotes Beano Cook as saying Fitzgerald was under consideration. Beano, who is still waiting on Ron Powlus' first Heisman, is still trying to make money in the prognostication business. Google failed me on anything written down, so the best I can guess is he blorphed it out during a video segment.
Meanwhile, or perhaps in response, Sun Times scribe Rick Telander threw something together saying he thought Fitzgerald would be a good candidate. We had linked the article when it came out, but I'd missed the Fitzgerald reference at the end. O'Donnell interpreted this as a "growing chorus" saying Fitzgerald should take the job, the Northwestern Scout kids wet their pants over it, and it took off from there.
I remained flummoxed. Beano Trelawney is who he is, of course, but what's Telander's game, and why is O'Donnell riding saddle with no horse like this? Better yet, why is he writing about non-existent Notre Dame rules in a newspaper, even the Sun Times?
And then, epiphany. 17 days early.
Northwestern is one of the few schools out there that, like Notre Dame, knows academics is not a four-letter word when it comes to athletics. Their high standards are laudable, but, as ND fans know, come at the price of a shallower talent pool from which to draw. When ND is running on a full mixture, like Duke in basketball, it tends to dominate that pool.
This certainly is a detriment to Fitzgerald, especially with Notre Dame coming into Illinois and grabbing players like Steve Filer, Darius Fleming, Robert Hughes, and Sergio Brown. Even walk-on-cum-special-teams-monster Mike Anello bears a Land of Lincoln pedigree. Northwestern doesn't recruit nationally to the extent ND does, so the Fighting Irish cherry-picking Chicago talent would hurt Fitzgerald sooner or later.
How to fight against it? If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Notre Dame is thinking about hiring this guy? Hey, I should just go play for him now if ND thinks he's that good!
Telander's a Northwestern alumnus, and there'd be no point in destabilizing his alma mater's coaching staff for something as ephemeral as this Fitzgerald-to-ND garbage, especially considering he was one of the people who created it out of whole cloth. Ah, but if he knows there's little chance it's actually going to happen and can couch it in such a way that makes Fitzgerald look good at Charlie Weis' expense? That's gold, Jerry.
O'Donnell's the beat writer, he wants access just as much as anyone else does. What better way to get it than to do the boss man a favor and suggest some non-existent "rules" at ND along with a non-denial denial. As long as he doesn't actually lie and say it's true, he's well into the safe gray area. We Catholics call that area a "sin of omission".
Dragging dear old dad into this farce is borderline reprehensible on all of their parts. But as a dad myself, I know you want to see your kids succeed, so I don't blame him too much.
Rising above it all, the young Pat gets to be magnanimous, talking about how he'd be "honored if ND considered him" (easy to say when they're not). Now he can walk into recruits' living rooms and shake his head ruefully about the "rumors" (started in a hometown paper by an alumnus and the beat writer) and what that might "say" about the quality of his coaching and the stability at Notre Dame.
Well done, boys. Very well done.
If only any of it were true.
Labels: charlie weis, media, notre dame football
16 Comments:
Wow! IS this where were at? This entire article is lame. With no games, no Charile Sightings, we have to find a reason to be upset at Northwestern coach. He is a good guy and coach.
BAsh the Sun-Times? Thats the only Chicago paper that writes stories about ND without a bias. They usually tell you how it is, but also keep their personal hatred for the program/coach out of it, unlike the Tribune.
I had heard Fitz' name mentioned in other places too. But only mentioned as good possible candidates, never as someone on Jacks list.
The guy who runs the Trib's sports section has been an ND fan all his life and sent one of his kids there. Not sure how that equates to personal hatred.
This scenario is certainly plausible. If, as the Sun-Times claims, ND is interested in Fitz then this raises his stock in the eyes of recruits. And the timing just happens to coincide with the home stretch of recruiting season. I think I smell a rat, too.
Frankly, I don't think Fitz could do any worse than Weis but that's just my opinion.
The idea that Northwestern's coach is a candidate for ND after 1 good season is as big a joke as the fabrication his father told about his history with ND.
Another joke is that Beano Cook knows anything about college football today or that he likes Notre Dame. He hates Notre Dame and he's out of his league as a commentator.
I had to read your entire column before I could figure out where you were going. Next time please make your point earlier. Also, you guys aren't conspiracy theorists. It'd be nice if you left this kind of sausage to 12 year olds.
Let me, in Crossian fashion, give an F to most of the comments herein.
I knew in the first paragraph that the ST ran a ridiculous rumor about ND, (which wasn't true '96-'00 either) so I'm sorry if it took anyone longer to figure out the point, but yeah, this "conspiracy theory" is plausible given the circumstance.
If you know even the first thing about some of the tactics coaches use in CFB recruiting, can you really dismiss the possibility that a Chicago-area coach might want to dissuade his local talent pool from considering ND?
I agree with the person who had trouble following what this whole blurb was about.
I only came away with it that the author gives Fitzgerald an "F" in recruiting questions.
Hope no one gives out a grade on this article...
This is extremely plausible. Let's face it, Northwestern has it rough. It's not just Notre Dame cherry picking chicago talent. Half the Big 10+1 recruits chicago. Michigan, Iowa, Purdue and don't forget Illinois all heavily recruit chicago. Northwestern's not even on the top three in the pecking order. Recruiting, which in my opinion, has never been exactly a gentlemen's sport, has gotten more and more cut-throat just in the last 5 years. This is by no means out of the realm of possibility.
I am a '69 ND grad and Northwestern MBA who lives in the NW Suburbs of Chicago.I have also been a Chicago Tribune subscriber for my entire life.. IMO, although he tries to hide it, Brian Hamilton, the Trib Beat Writer for ND, would much rather cover ND defeats than wins..He seems delighted when we lose...
In his weekly appearances on Chicago Tribune Live on Comcast,his eyes twinkle and he seems almost gleeful when discussing ND and their ongoing Gridiron struggles..
On the other hand, I have been following Pat Fitzgerald's career from the time he played at NU..
It is a little too early now but, I believe he is becoming one of the best young coaches in college football. In a few years, we would be lucky to have him as our coach.
Mike... Im not reffering to Dan Mcrath as someone who dislikes ND. Im reffering to Brian Hamilton and Teddy Greenstien. Hamilton takes shots at ND whenever possible. Ive emailed with him on occasions. Most Chicago media dislike ND because of the way they are treated by Weis. The tribunes articles are always slanted. Sun-Times is the only Chicago paper that writs objectively and will state the good with the bad opposed to Trib who downplays the good and screams the bad.
RK -- Greenstein definitely seems to have an anti-ND bias, he was awful when he was the beat writer. Trouble is, columnists are going to write what they write, and if they're censored or limited by their paper, that paper is going to have a hard time getting people to work for them. I think we got spoiled by Avani Patel writing the ND beat, she was very very good.
BS conspiracy theory here. If this is supposed to be journalism just label it a screenplay and sell the movie rights. We are 6-6 and NW was 8-4 with a much tougher schedule. Given the academic backgrounds of both schools it is plausible to think Fitz would be a candidate. Leave it at that.
According to Jeff Sagarin, Notre Dame's schedule was ranked #36 in difficulty, while Northwestern's was ranked #64.
Solecismic ranked ND #32, Northwestern #64.
NationalChamps.net, affiliated with EsPN, ranks ND #38 and Northwestern #65.
And what is the difference between you sporting an "opinion" without checking the facts and the Sun Times article? Did you ask the writer why he wrote the article? I am sick and tired of the "woe is Notre Dame" and the media is out to get us. So what? We are starting to act like Michigan and whining about any imaginable slight.
I dont think Fitz as a candidate is that terrible of an idea. If ND was having a candidate search, which we are NOT, he should be on the list. This team needs someone with fire and passion, and Fitz certainly has both. He could probably take down some of NDs players right now if they gave him a helmet and pads. Everyone needs to make sure that we dont get arrogant and think we need the biggest name coach.... we need the right coach and Fitz could be that. Remember that the last time Notre Dame hired a Northwestern football coach coming off of an average year with only one good year, a guy named Ara did alright for the Irish
plus-- not many coaches coaching right now are already in the college football hall of fame
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