JuCo enrollment is the canary in the coalmine
by shillelaghhugger (2024-04-26 18:25:56)

In reply to: Response  posted by Raoul


Comm colleges have been struggling mightily since they peaked in the Great Recession. They're hanging on because they're highly subsidized (usually).

Since then, it's been a difficult crash for them. No one needs an AA. And while there are plenty of great jobs if you get a CTE cert or training, most students still prefer to get paid doing that OJT. So it remains niche and underutilized. Many Comm Colleges are joining up with major employers to provide their training, so if nothing else they can explain their access to the property taxes.

Many comm colleges are getting into the undergrad business to stay alive. Here in AZ, they received the ability to offer over the STRONG objection from our public Univ.

I do wonder if there would be a market for some comm colleges to spin off into low-cost, non-reasearch, liberal arts focused undergrad colleges. There's still a ton of kids who want on campus liberal arts degrees but don't want to spend 50k a year doing it. Many comm colleges have underutilized branches or sections of their schools. I know that a liberal arts college doesn't seem like an investment right now, but that's because they're doing it at a price no one wants to pay. Comm colleges are subsidized and may be able to reinvent the 4 year experience: real professors in small classrooms who are able to meet with students instead of focusing on research.

I wonder what other opportunities this higher ed pullback will create. Kids still need a place to grow up.


Good observation on the encroachment from community colleges
by Raoul  (2024-04-26 18:48:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

They are aspiring that here in IL as well. It is a good deal if they can make it happen. I have a good friend from ND whose son did 2 years at community college and finishing off his English degree (as you suggested) at ASU's online school. Very much a bargain so get an English degree without the debt from many of the places that would sell them for $40-80K a year for 4 years.

Many Community Colleges have the issue that their state funding is getting strained. NY and CT facing huge issues that way. As an offset NY just agreed to not fund schools with endowments over $750M and more fully fund those with less. Fordham and St Johns are pissed as they just got over that threshold apparently. Cornell and Columbia - no big deal. They won't even miss it.