And Stavisky and Macri and Counsel and the pitchers who were so successful at ND and in the pros thereafter. I just meant that while he was at ND Stanley seemed to spark the team and motivate his teammates like nobody's business, all the way into the CWS. I can't recall a more fiery guy who could spark the team as well as he. (On the other hand I type this from 2,000 miles away and wasn't on the scene, so I may be all wet.)