My daughters classes have DEI statements in all syllabi *
by airborneirish (2024-01-03 16:12:06)

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What grade? *
by ACross  (2024-01-03 20:00:10)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply


High school at an elite public high school
by airborneirish  (2024-01-04 16:51:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

I would give anything for my kids to have a law school style syllabus that breaks out assignments class by class. Instead I get high level stuff and a DEI statement.


do you know the story about the kid who complained about the
by ACross  (2024-01-05 18:01:34)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

lunch the kid ate every day?

Disgruntled kid: "God damn it. Another peanut and jelly sandwich! 50 days in a row"

Friend: "Why don't you ask your mother to make you a different lunch?"

Disgruntled kid: ""I make my own lunch."


The pros of attending the #1 public high school outweigh con *
by airborneirish  (2024-01-09 16:38:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply


Give a shout when they offer Land Acknowledgements
by Brahms  (2024-01-03 17:00:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Is that a think in public schools?


Side question -- why "stolen" and not "conquered" land?
by BigBadBrewer  (2024-01-06 23:03:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Stolen implies the need for return to rightful owners, where we all just accept the realities of historical conquest.


UVA's tour process starts with one, and continues with
by Barrister  (2024-01-04 12:00:12)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

criticism of Thomas Jefferson's slave ownership.


Good comedy bit on this point out of Canada
by Milhouse  (2024-01-03 21:30:48)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply


ND's Land Acknowledgement...
by Kbyrnes  (2024-01-03 17:39:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

...Native American Initiatives.

It looks like every public institution in the City of Chicago has a land acknowledgement:

The City of Chicago
The Field Museum
The Art Institute of Chicago
The University of Illinois at Chicago
Loyola University Chicago
DePaul University
Northwestern University
Newberry Library
Illinois Institute of Technology
Chicago History Museum
...etc.

I just checked the suburbs. Most of them seem to not have land acknowledgement statements, though some of the school and library districts do.

It seems like an easy and almost cheap way to virtue-signal, though I wonder how much of a virtue it really is to say, "We occupy what used to be your land. We're not leaving, but want to send you this cheery note." I'm not particularly opposed to it, but also not sure what it really accomplishes, any more than renaming highways, etc.


I used to enjoy going to Steppenwolf to see various
by crazychester  (2024-01-03 18:36:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

live productions. Between the interminable land aknowledgements and the mask mandates that dragged on far past their sell-by date, I've become far more picky.

This is to say nothing of the production quality which has fallen off a cliff.


It's a weird flex
by shillelaghhugger  (2024-01-03 18:35:21)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

So this was your land. It was probably someone else's before that too. You took it and had it for a minute. Anyhow it's ours now and if you get some scratch together I suppose you could buy some of it but that's your business, free country n all. Anyhow where were we?


Interetingly when my son and I toured Georgetown they
by wpkirish  (2024-01-04 08:06:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

acknowledge both the stolen land and the 272 slaves who were sold to help pay off the school's debt. In our group that day were two students who were descendants of one of the slaves.

Didnt seem so trivial that day.


Nice expression
by ACross  (2024-01-03 20:10:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

From whom did native Americans steal land? Wooly mammoths? The Flintstones?


It’s well documented
by shillelaghhugger  (2024-01-04 11:02:02)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

You’re welcome to research the topic.

You’re such a delight to chat with, by the way. We really appreciate your contributions.


They took it from other Native Americans. You think the
by Jeash  (2024-01-04 06:42:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

natives were all big happy family? They were fighting wars/displacing one another long before honkies invaded the continent.


Oh give me a break
by ACross  (2024-01-04 10:27:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Just a silly position to take.


You think that history prior to 1492 was static?
by Milhouse  (2024-01-04 12:38:05)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Of course various tribes came and went from various parts of this country as the tribes' power ebbed and flowed. There's a reason the Crow hated the Lakota Sioux, to name one of many examples. And the Crow themselves pushed the Shoshone off their land in the first place.


yeah that's what I think
by ACross  (2024-01-05 17:58:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Or rather, people can just concede the point that the European settlers of this country didn't treat the Indians very well.

You morons will never get off your merrygoround of whataboutism.

But the Indians fought each other too!


You’re the guy who disputed that the Indians stole
by milhouse  (2024-01-05 21:23:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

land and mocked a poster for suggesting otherwise by asking if they stole it from the Flintstones or woolly mammoths. Don’t try to dodge that now.

The point is that these land acknowledgment statements are dumb and ignore that Native Americans took land under “the old rules” — that is, before about 1945, where might made right and you could take land through conquest without remorse — just like everyone else.


Go read a history book. *
by Jeash  (2024-01-04 11:04:48)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply


Or, we could just give it back for them to give it back
by Brahms  (2024-01-03 19:15:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

But we’d lose out on a lot of virtue signaling opportunities in the present. And we don’t feel THAT bad about it after all.


You morons are easily offended *
by ACross  (2024-01-03 20:12:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply


Your mouth has a loose hinge or something.
by Brahms  (2024-01-03 21:02:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

In reality I have no earthly idea what your problem is, or why anyone tolerates you at all.


Does Fed Govt require this?
by Brahms  (2024-01-03 18:11:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

I'd wager NEA, NEH is making funding contingent on venue's roster of artists, etc.


All of our school shows begin with this *
by airborneirish  (2024-01-03 17:07:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply


Oh FFS. Seriously? Government in Chicago is unserious....
by Marine Domer  (2024-01-03 19:11:26)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

posturing nonsense. Let's play to every grievance group rather than do the hard work of governance. How pathetic.


Grade school? *
by Brahms  (2024-01-03 17:09:48)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply


Yes - it really fires up the crowd to be told we're all
by airborneirish  (2024-01-03 17:25:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

murders and thieves. AND NOW, DECK THE HALLS!


Our City of Chicago contract...
by Kbyrnes  (2024-01-03 16:42:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

...to provide appraisals required us to sign off that neither our firm nor a predecessor firm had owned slaves.


It's funny that schools are still hanging onto this
by krudler  (2024-01-03 16:32:59)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

ideology. Many businesses are moving in the opposite direction after realizing how worthless and expensive these initiatives are, and that the majority of people are not making their hiring, firing, promotion, and other work decisions based on race, gender, or other immutable characteristics that the left is obsessed with. Additionally most people in their jobs just want to keep their heads down, do a good job, and not be lectured to, so they generally don't pay much attention to this nonsense.


At what level? High School? Middle School? *
by goirish89  (2024-01-03 16:13:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply


High school.
by airborneirish  (2024-01-03 16:32:48)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

The stem teachers (female, BIPOC) are not enthused and tend to fill it in with fluff.