ND's Land Acknowledgement...
by Kbyrnes (2024-01-03 17:39:31)
Edited on 2024-01-03 17:39:50

In reply to: Give a shout when they offer Land Acknowledgements  posted by Brahms

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...Native American Initiatives.

It looks like every public institution in the City of Chicago has a land acknowledgement:

The City of Chicago
The Field Museum
The Art Institute of Chicago
The University of Illinois at Chicago
Loyola University Chicago
DePaul University
Northwestern University
Newberry Library
Illinois Institute of Technology
Chicago History Museum
...etc.

I just checked the suburbs. Most of them seem to not have land acknowledgement statements, though some of the school and library districts do.

It seems like an easy and almost cheap way to virtue-signal, though I wonder how much of a virtue it really is to say, "We occupy what used to be your land. We're not leaving, but want to send you this cheery note." I'm not particularly opposed to it, but also not sure what it really accomplishes, any more than renaming highways, etc.

I used to enjoy going to Steppenwolf to see various
by crazychester  (2024-01-03 18:36:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

live productions. Between the interminable land aknowledgements and the mask mandates that dragged on far past their sell-by date, I've become far more picky.

This is to say nothing of the production quality which has fallen off a cliff.
It's a weird flex
by shillelaghhugger  (2024-01-03 18:35:21)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

So this was your land. It was probably someone else's before that too. You took it and had it for a minute. Anyhow it's ours now and if you get some scratch together I suppose you could buy some of it but that's your business, free country n all. Anyhow where were we?
Interetingly when my son and I toured Georgetown they
by wpkirish  (2024-01-04 08:06:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

acknowledge both the stolen land and the 272 slaves who were sold to help pay off the school's debt. In our group that day were two students who were descendants of one of the slaves.

Didnt seem so trivial that day.

Nice expression
by ACross  (2024-01-03 20:10:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

From whom did native Americans steal land? Wooly mammoths? The Flintstones?

It’s well documented
by shillelaghhugger  (2024-01-04 11:02:02)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

You’re welcome to research the topic.

You’re such a delight to chat with, by the way. We really appreciate your contributions.

They took it from other Native Americans. You think the
by Jeash  (2024-01-04 06:42:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

natives were all big happy family? They were fighting wars/displacing one another long before honkies invaded the continent.

Oh give me a break
by ACross  (2024-01-04 10:27:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Just a silly position to take.
You think that history prior to 1492 was static?
by Milhouse  (2024-01-04 12:38:05)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Of course various tribes came and went from various parts of this country as the tribes' power ebbed and flowed. There's a reason the Crow hated the Lakota Sioux, to name one of many examples. And the Crow themselves pushed the Shoshone off their land in the first place.
yeah that's what I think
by ACross  (2024-01-05 17:58:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Or rather, people can just concede the point that the European settlers of this country didn't treat the Indians very well.

You morons will never get off your merrygoround of whataboutism.

But the Indians fought each other too!

You’re the guy who disputed that the Indians stole
by milhouse  (2024-01-05 21:23:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

land and mocked a poster for suggesting otherwise by asking if they stole it from the Flintstones or woolly mammoths. Don’t try to dodge that now.

The point is that these land acknowledgment statements are dumb and ignore that Native Americans took land under “the old rules” — that is, before about 1945, where might made right and you could take land through conquest without remorse — just like everyone else.

Go read a history book. *
by Jeash  (2024-01-04 11:04:48)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Or, we could just give it back for them to give it back
by Brahms  (2024-01-03 19:15:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

But we’d lose out on a lot of virtue signaling opportunities in the present. And we don’t feel THAT bad about it after all.

You morons are easily offended *
by ACross  (2024-01-03 20:12:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Your mouth has a loose hinge or something.
by Brahms  (2024-01-03 21:02:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

In reality I have no earthly idea what your problem is, or why anyone tolerates you at all.

Does Fed Govt require this?
by Brahms  (2024-01-03 18:11:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

I'd wager NEA, NEH is making funding contingent on venue's roster of artists, etc.