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To be fair, however by HTownND

Football is sort of the gold standard of ND sports. All sports get measured against it, good or bad, because it's Notre Dame football.

As for Kelly, I agree, minds are made up. He's been the coach for 6 seasons, this is his 7th. I'm not sure what else we all need to see, there is lots of evidence to pull from to come to a conclusion. It's not like we're heading into year 3 or 4, we're heading into year 7. He'll be 64% of the way through Holtz' ND tenure at the end of this year. 73% after next year.


At of right now, the only coaches with more games coached at ND, in our history, are Rockne, Leahy, Ara and Lou. As of next year, here is the games coached landscape:

Lou - 132
Rockne - 122
Ara - 116
Leahy - 107
Kelly - 91 (assuming he coaches a bowl game this year)

How many more games do we need to make up our minds in your opinion?