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"saving face" - I typically associate it with Asian cultures by Raoul

especially Chinese but all throughout Asia it is a big thing. I don't feel like Western Europeans and most Americans care as much about the concept. I don't associate it with Latin America or Africa, but perhaps they are as obsessed with it as well. But whenever we deal with Asian countries it seems to be so critical.

I only note this as an observation. I don't have any solutions here. I agree that Iran was the marionette behind October 7th.