Dartmouth has always seemed like a tough place to win to me
by FL_Irish (2023-06-05 12:59:43)
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In reply to: Dartmouth HC Position Opens Up  posted by dillon77

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Doesn't have the same academic cachet as Harvard, Yale, or Princeton. The fact that Penn has Wharton and Columbia (and I recognize Columbia doesn't have lacrosse) is in NYC often also give them a leg up in recruiting over Dartmouth.

Their football team has historically been good and went on a bit of a recent upswing, but in general I think of them as an Ivy League athletics also-ran.

I wonder if someone like Wojcik bides his time for a better opening.



Fair Enough, But It's an Ivy Program....
by dillon77  (2023-06-05 16:44:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...and there's not going to be a lot of openings there with Princeton, Yale, Cornell and Penn all playing top-notch ball and Harvard & Brown not far behind.

Like I said, they went 6-6 this year and are returning some top-notch underclassmen.

Now, the key to me is: does Dartmouth have the will and funds to put into athletics like its southern neighbors do? Outside of skiing and soccer (both Bobby Clark and Chad Riley coached there on the guys side, as did Teresa Romagnolo before coming to ND), they haven't been at the top of ranks in most sports.

But Lax could be an exception, given their proximity to all so many prep schools.

BTW, while Dartmouth isn't the big three of Harvard, Yale or Princeton, it's still a pretty darn good university, as I'm sure you know. Wharton is a great part of Penn, but the +1 there is the MBA, so most undergrads aren't being drawn there for that. (BTW, Tuck is a darn good MBA at Dartmouth).

Still, I'm making this suggestion for Wojcik, given his familiarity with both the league and the northeast. It could be a differentiator for him.

(BTW, full admission which doesn't cloud my opinion: my older brother went to Dartmouth -- think he would've liked Yale more -- and many soccer players from the Youth club I worked on ended up playing for the Big Green.)

I agree that lacrosse seems like a natural place where they
by FL_Irish  (2023-06-05 17:27:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

…might be able to make a push.

Nothing against Dartmouth. I’ve visited many, many times and like the campus and area. And it could be a good fit for all the reasons you indicate.

I’m just saying if it were me, I’d have at least some misgivings based on the lack of success of their athletic department more broadly.
With You on That ....
by dillon77  (2023-06-06 10:48:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

My brother was a freshman when the Big Green went into the Yale Bowl and beat the Eli to win the Ivy League and be the last Ivy League Team to finish in the Top 10.

Outside of some success by Buddy Teevans, that's been in for the gridders. And a team they should be good at -- hockey -- was horrendous this year.

But if there are some core players and a guarantee of some resources for lax players/facilities, maybe?

On the other hand, Coach W's could stay at ND and wait a year for other programs to shake out. Stay tuned.