John & Ellie part 2

John & Ellie part 2
by p.s. I am not a crackpot (2019-09-03 12:48:33)

Game watch last night was at the bar up the road, and John met us up there. He gave us an update, which sparked a discussion.

Ellie is begging him for forgiveness and has agreed not only to go to couples counseling but has sworn she will never speak to the maid of honor (who not only convinced her to do the guy at the hotel after the party was over, which is why the girls from our group were unaware, but paid for it and then did the guy herself right after Ellie was done) again. Personally I'll believe that when I see it, but John is mulling it over.

The discussion regarded what would be considered cheating. We were split on whether or not actual intercouse would be required to go over the line. I was in the group that thought anything involving removal of the groom's clothing was over the line, others felt hummers were ok since there wasn't any actual sex going on.

We're now calling one of our buddies "Clinton" as a result. I don't know how I got myself into this.

Replies:

"Hey John, how his dictate?" That should end it. * - irishnyer 2019-09-04 11:40:54
Ellie was "convinced by the MOH..." indicates Ellie knew it - URwhatUR 2019-09-04 09:10:04
- Concur * - ShillelaghHugger 2019-09-04 11:32:02
And that's why you don't marry a Methodist. * - RedIrish 2019-09-04 00:08:18
They could become swingers - Final_Flanner 2019-09-03 20:06:14
- I'm just assuming you work in the porn industry - Irish Warrior 2019-09-03 21:20:19
  - One couple that both cujaysfan and I know did that - denver95 2019-09-03 23:16:49
    - Wait! Are we talking swingers or slingers? * - Seamus 2019-09-04 21:13:29
  - nope. old job at boring big company - Final_Flanner 2019-09-03 22:26:26
  - But it might work for us. - baloo88 2019-09-03 21:41:50
This is a depressing thread. - BeijingIrish 2019-09-03 19:58:16
- John definitely is still my friend - p.s. I am not a crackpot 2019-09-03 23:42:11
John needs to see how many boxes Ellie - Jeash 2019-09-03 18:36:24
This is an easy one - Jvan 2019-09-03 17:39:31
- But is he mentally and physically strong? * - johnnysalami 2019-09-03 21:06:45
- Why stop there? - pmoose 2019-09-03 19:47:14
  - I like how you think. * - NDde 2019-09-04 05:49:26
Zero chance that stripper was the (1)first cheat or (2) last - 1NDGal 2019-09-03 17:17:40
- I’m a divorce lawyer. You’re right. * - Manor76 2019-09-03 22:19:29
- Zero chance? - doolinbanjos 2019-09-03 19:40:30
  - I agree. I'd be skeptical it's one time. But by no means - tdiddy07 2019-09-04 11:56:37
- Agreed * - Son of Galway 2019-09-03 18:23:36
- Word * - jmac95 2019-09-03 17:45:43
getting rid of the MOH is a lame move - Irishlawyer 2019-09-03 16:57:40
- I just assumed she was jt's sister in law - irishrock 2019-09-03 17:04:03
  - actually, she has more in common with John in this situation - jt 2019-09-03 18:54:08
They should both do counseling regardless. - rockmcd 2019-09-03 16:55:03
Wait, why are we throwing the MoH under the bus? - Steelhop 2019-09-03 15:37:00
- Wait, the stripper's name was "The bus" ? * - DakotaDomer 2019-09-03 15:40:36
Mr Fred Rogers never encouraged this behavior on his tv show - Frank Drebin 2019-09-03 15:32:57
- That’s a pretty big hole. - baloo88 2019-09-03 16:22:24
Need to clarify if the stripper was wearing 501 jeans prior - CAFB4ND 2019-09-03 15:25:20
- Bugle boy, I believe * - gozer 2019-09-03 21:27:41
This is so much better than watching the game * - graNDfan 2019-09-03 15:15:50
When do you plan to post Part 3? - irishintheville 2019-09-03 15:12:05
- Part 3 is the inevitable "reverse post" - Milhouse 2019-09-03 16:40:35
  - I’m more interested in another point of view. - baloo88 2019-09-03 17:15:10
- I like to think maid of honor uploaded the video to pornhub * - Father Nieuwland 2019-09-03 15:16:26
  - This thread deserves a pom salute! * - doolinbanjos 2019-09-03 16:33:24
All I'll say about this is - sprack 2019-09-03 15:02:21
I need to hear the stripper’s side of the story - DBCooper 2019-09-03 14:43:37
A lot of unnecessary confusion here. - potatohouse 2019-09-03 14:28:16
- This is kind of like the discussion of human rights... - Kbyrnes 2019-09-03 17:53:32
- For most people, don't bang the stripper is implied. - EricCartman 2019-09-03 14:55:46
  - For most, absolutely. - potatohouse 2019-09-03 15:16:35
    - I understand what you are saying. - EricCartman 2019-09-03 17:45:35
    - Been talking with your polyamorous friends again? * - ND Trumpet 2019-09-03 15:44:29
  - Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? * - DBCooper 2019-09-03 14:56:16
- “Don’t bang a male hooker in the lead up to our nuptials.” - FL_Irish 2019-09-03 14:54:52
  - Let he who has not banged a male stripper cast the 1st stone * - Irish Tool 2019-09-03 19:17:39
  - I think it is safe to say that - Bmoreirish 2019-09-03 16:13:01
  - We can debate who the onus is on. - potatohouse 2019-09-03 15:07:15
    - I think the onus... - shawno3 2019-09-03 18:11:50
    - So you are blaming John? - DBCooper 2019-09-03 16:05:51
      - I don't understand what your second sentence means - potatohouse 2019-09-03 16:31:04
        This is why roll-your-own morality doesn't work - ndtnguy 2019-09-03 17:49:36
        I disagree. - potatohouse 2019-09-04 09:54:53
        Only a Sith deals in absolutes * - Shifty 2019-09-03 19:01:33
        Yes, stupid autocorrect typo - DBCooper 2019-09-03 16:49:31
        To your first paragraph, - potatohouse 2019-09-03 17:11:04
        I think his 2nd paragraph was about other aspects of marriag - NDoggie78 2019-09-03 17:44:16
        I feel like we're getting into a lot of assumptions now. - potatohouse 2019-09-04 10:00:17
        Just saying I'm not sure I could trust her decision-making - NDoggie78 2019-09-04 17:21:47
        Fair enough. - potatohouse 2019-09-05 08:57:38
        The fact that you put any blame on him whatsoever - FL_Irish 2019-09-03 16:42:37
    - If they had had general discussions about... - FL_Irish 2019-09-03 15:20:25
      - It may seem obvious. - potatohouse 2019-09-03 15:57:34
        I’m pretty confident that we’d get near universal agreement - FL_Irish 2019-09-03 16:30:57
        Half the people in OP's poll couldn't agree about - potatohouse 2019-09-03 16:42:51
        Dude what are you talking about - AIRBORNEIRISH 2019-09-03 22:18:00
        this thread made me un-ignore a number of people * - Irishlawyer 2019-09-04 13:17:32
        Clerks did cast doubt on the matter. - The Holtz Room 2019-09-03 18:53:39
        In a row?! * - Irish Tool 2019-09-03 19:18:42
        hey you, get back here * - vivaflanner 2019-09-04 01:17:35
        “I know you disapprove... - thinkinfellar 2019-09-03 16:56:15
        Definitely not half * - DBCooper 2019-09-03 16:50:15
        I read "split" and turned that into half. - potatohouse 2019-09-03 17:11:46
        I understand your point. It’s just a very bad one. - FL_Irish 2019-09-03 16:50:03
        OK. * - potatohouse 2019-09-03 17:13:57
    - That doesn't necessarily follow at all - ndtnguy 2019-09-03 15:14:19
      - Well, of course. - potatohouse 2019-09-03 16:01:20
- Summarized by noted marriage counselor Strother Martin [ v ] - Father Nieuwland 2019-09-03 14:48:35
- This is actually spot on * - OrangeJubilee 2019-09-03 14:42:38
- Are you married? * - AIRBORNEIRISH 2019-09-03 14:41:16
  - I am. - potatohouse 2019-09-03 14:55:27
    - I'm trying to understand your post - airborneirish 2019-09-03 15:35:00
      - That's not what I said. - potatohouse 2019-09-03 15:54:18
      - You misread. - veets 2019-09-03 15:38:26
        Jesus my bad sorry - AIRBORNEIRISH 2019-09-03 16:08:05
Since no one wants to defend Ellie - OrangeJubilee 2019-09-03 14:12:05
- Oh I completely disagree. There will always be excuses - 84david 2019-09-03 16:10:04
- "Run away" is the easy answer - ndtnguy 2019-09-03 15:11:49
- I want to know the married couple - DBCooper 2019-09-03 14:54:55
  - I don't know, man - ndzippy 2019-09-03 15:15:56
    - I would agree with you, if not for the fact - DBCooper 2019-09-03 16:08:58
- She did self-report. - Bruno95 2019-09-03 14:20:09
  - Does she have to vacate all the sex she had before John? * - okerland 2019-09-03 14:55:03
    - First, she must file her appeal to the backroom. * - cj 2019-09-03 16:30:31
John needs to run far away from this whacko. * - CAFB4ND 2019-09-03 14:10:36
Maybe it's just me, but this maid of honor sounds awesome - ndzippy 2019-09-03 13:59:03
PS imo he needs a legal agreement if they get back together * - cj 2019-09-03 13:56:29
John should make a deal with Ellie... - EricCartman 2019-09-03 13:55:51
- I believe this is referred to as the "Kirilenko" * - ndzippy 2019-09-03 13:59:41
I'm impressed with the stripper's refractory period - Shifty 2019-09-03 13:41:16
- That was my take away as well. Ahh, youth.... * - Lloyd Braun 2019-09-03 14:45:33
- There's a pill for that. * - EricCartman 2019-09-03 13:51:47
- Oh to be 20 again * - DBCooper 2019-09-03 13:50:33
Yikes - El Kabong 2019-09-03 13:39:22
- They met in high school - p.s. I am not a crackpot 2019-09-03 14:23:34
  - It sounds like a storybook relationship. - Bruno95 2019-09-03 14:38:01
    - This is a critical point - sophomaniac 2019-09-03 16:12:41
      - like carnies? - DBCooper 2019-09-03 21:09:43
    - All over her face? Ellie! Forever unclean! * - Father Nieuwland 2019-09-03 15:11:35
    - Still remember your post about Mindy--wasn't that her name * * - irishintheville 2019-09-03 15:03:02
    - You're a sick man, Bruno. * - NDde 2019-09-03 14:55:56
    - Are you Dave Chappelle? - Jurassic 2019-09-03 14:51:51
    - Bukkake, please. - The Holtz Room 2019-09-03 14:49:22
      - Oh to be 20 again * - DBCooper 2019-09-03 14:57:23
      - He had me at "wheelbarrow". * - Jurassic 2019-09-03 14:54:12
      - If it is dry, you should probably call a doctor. * - NDBass 2019-09-03 14:52:44
Let her have the first go. Good friend. - LondonDomer 2019-09-03 13:27:38
Did you ever figure out how John found about this? * - johnnysalami 2019-09-03 13:23:47
- Here you go. - NDBass 2019-09-03 13:56:17
  - Clearly Ellie is a stickler for traditions - DakotaDomer 2019-09-04 08:02:35
....sad situation all around. - cj 2019-09-03 13:19:12
What is the ruling on farm animals? * - Clarence Beeks 2019-09-03 13:14:14
“Others thought hummers were ok” - DakotaDomer 2019-09-03 13:12:29
- What if it was just the tip? * - wrathofsorin 2019-09-03 13:15:03
  - Just the tip!!! - maniactranspodriver 2019-09-03 14:06:09
Usually you are who your friends are - DBCooper 2019-09-03 13:06:04
Well? - Wooderson 2019-09-03 13:02:47
WTF did I miss in the romper room? * - irishsundevil 2019-09-03 12:56:03
- a quick summary - montroy28 2019-09-03 13:58:55
  - A case where the right meme explains everything * - wcnitz 2019-09-03 14:00:27
You have some dirt bag friends * - AIRBORNEIRISH 2019-09-03 12:55:50
It's a start - wcnitz 2019-09-03 12:55:21
- Damn 90s kids * - captaineclectic 2019-09-03 14:24:27
They paid a male stripper for sex? - Giggity_Giggity 2019-09-03 12:54:37
- Seriously. If Ellie had to pay for it... - shawno3 2019-09-03 18:27:32
- That was my thought - it has to be her * - graNDfan 2019-09-03 15:23:17