There's some good and bad in Newspace
by The Irish Cardinal (2020-05-30 18:22:50)

In reply to: I just can't get into new space  posted by Ravenium


I've seen some companies - led by big names like SpaceX and Blue Origin - that have spearheaded a lot of new tech development. Things like reusable rockets, very large satellite constellations, and small satellite tech. Great stuff.

But for every one of those, I've seen about five companies that never should have gotten off the drawing board. It seems like Newspace culture brings out the worst elements of Silicon Valley startups. From how they treat their personnel to the obfuscation about their business plan, even as far as never intending to accomplish what they set out to do.

So yeah, it's hard for me to get excited about Newspace, either, but I have a healthy amount of respect for what SpaceX has accomplished here.


The small rocket space is going to collapse.
by R2D2isAMeanDrunk  (2020-05-30 18:45:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

There's a huge amount of activity there, but they all seem to be focused on the same customers with novelty technology that isn't clear if it will really give some substantial benefit.

To your point, fundamentally rewriting the economics of getting to space, both LEO and beyond, is worthy of both celebration and optimism for what could be next.


Yes, too many companies, not enough customers.
by The Irish Cardinal  (2020-05-30 22:19:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But it goes beyond that. Some of these companies are simply a cash grab. They have no intention of completing the task they state to the VCs when fundraising.

In two companies that I'm familiar with, the products would fundamentally violate the laws of physics. For one in particular, it's likely a front to produce a similar tech that could be used for more...nefarious purposes.


It feels a little like the Internet model.
by VTND  (2020-05-30 23:01:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Get something out there, and figure out how to make money on it later. Access to LEO is so cheap now, high schools are launching microsatts.


Lecturer at the most recent Iridium event said...
by Giggity_Giggity  (2020-05-31 00:36:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...there were 165 “satellite” companies out there. Maybe one or two would make it. Reference OneWeb going tits up, and they were well capitalized!


Speaking of Iridium...read an investment article on them
by rflor  (2020-05-31 08:06:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Talk about a financially well-run company. They kept their head down, paid off debt, and are now planning to pay out a dividend. I found it impressive as you hear so little about them as compared to the big Telco plays.


It’s like the horseless carriage. Why would anyone want one.
by socal_doubledomer74  (2020-05-30 23:30:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Or the computer. It fills an entire floor after all.


I want to believe. *
by R2D2isAMeanDrunk  (2020-05-31 01:00:54)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post