Maddox 1.65 ERA and Martinez 1.76 ERA
by OldIrishFan (2020-10-03 10:14:36)

In reply to: Still not as good as Pedro in 2000  posted by DBCooper

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Martinez had a fantastic season and especially when comparing other pitchers’ ERA that year. Maddox as well although he didn’t pitch particularly well in the playoffs. Maddox only pitched about 200 innings. I had the privilege of watching Seaver throughout the 1971 season as I lived on Long Island growing up. The impressive thing about Seaver and Gibson is the amount of innings pitched and complete games l. They were pitching the 8th and
9th innings while today’s pitchers are on the bench. I saw them all and Gibson’s 1968 season
was for the ages.


Maddux and Martinez when compared to rest of league
by DBCooper  (2020-10-03 10:23:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Were unreal, especially Pedro. And as a Yankee fan, that’s hard to admit. Second best era in 2000 was Clemens at 3.7. 2 runs a game worse. That’s insane. Second best era in Gibson’s 68 was 1.99 for reference,

Gibson had raised mound, bigger strike zone and 68 was arguably the worst hitting year of the live ball era.

Nothing against Gibson, it’s a top 5 year, but Maddux and Pedro were better IMO.

I fully understand your points and tend to agree with them.
by OldIrishFan  (2020-10-03 10:32:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Pitching in 1968 was phenomenal and led to rules changes the next year. I think Yaz was the only player in the American League to hit over .300 and then only at .301. Maddox and Martinez did what they did in the era of steroids and specialization. I guess my memories are affected by sentimentality and foggy ruins of time. Gibson was intimidating and scary good. I got to see him in person in 1971 at Shea where he shut out the Mets and had a no-hitter going into the 7th inning. Comparing the ages is difficult but fun. It is one of the beauties of baseball. I think Clemens had the second best ERA to Martinez that year and it was almost double his. Martinez holds the record for greatest disparity between first and second place. Clemens ERA was 3.70. How about Dazzy Vance with a discrepancy of 1.2 runs in 1930. Just edited my post