And yet
by squid (2021-04-15 21:09:30)

In reply to: Here in CT, 55% of adults have received their first dose.  posted by LondonDomer

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numbers are 10x last summer and hospitalizations and cases are actually increasing.

Let’s hope the next three weeks really turns the corner all around.



Those numbers are weird.
by LondonDomer  (2021-04-16 08:08:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It shows the number of hospitalized as averaging 595 on April 15.

From the numbers Governor Lamont shares, it peaked barely over 500 and has been trending down for the last week.

Cases seem accurate. But they seem to have started trending down.

don't know
by squid  (2021-04-16 08:48:10)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Anyway, the current infections/hospitalizations in most places would have scared the crap out of us in October. The winter wave was just off the charts bad and I think our eyes are drawn to that mountain on the chart but don't look back and say, you know what, numbers are still high compared to the summer and early fall in most places.

I'm a week into my second dose so yay for that. Virginia's loose criteria allowed me to get it with a BMI of 26 (overweight).
This is the part I don’t understand
by Endthecursein05  (2021-04-16 07:20:02)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Why are we not seeing better numbers in regards to cases and hospitalizations? If there was no vaccine yet, would it increasingly worse?
In Michigan, we sort of are seeing better numbers.
by grnd  (2021-04-16 08:56:54)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I know that sounds crazy given that we have more hospitalizations than at any time in the pandemic. But the demographic has changed: whereas before, the hospitalizations were mainly 65+, now those being hospitalized are mainly under 65. Over 70% of 65+ have received one dose of vaccine (and almost 65% are fully vaccinated). The vaccine appears to be protecting those most vulnerable (and most vaccinated) from this current surge. The surge is in a younger, substantially less-vaccinated demographic.

And the surge is happening in Michigan because we have substantial spread of the more contagious B.1.1.7. variant, coupled with pandemic fatigue and also that we had a larger pool of uninfected people due to having done a pretty good job up to this point of keeping infections down.

Deaths are a lagging indicator, but so far they do not seem to be ramping up as before when cases and hospitalizations spiked.
some thoughts (not a doctor)
by parietals  (2021-04-16 08:07:33)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

-the new variants are more infectious, speeding up cases
-we are still far away from herd immunity
-American society is done with covid and moving on (see mask mandates dropping, airports extremely crowded, beaches too).
-The people that are living life like before are also the people that aren't going to get vaccinated. (generalized comment, of course)
beaches mostly safe
by turtle17  (2021-04-16 13:38:58)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Just because I can't help myself, beaches themselves are mostly safe. The bars and restaurants after, maybe not, but the outside aspect of beaches is a really big positive.