That’s because it showed vaccinated sick people can infect

We had been told that wasn’t true before, it’s not the fact that they got sick, it’s the fact that after they did there was evidence the viral load in their nares was the exact same as a non vaccinated person. The masks only have to go on when spread is high or substantial, unfortunately currently that’s 80% of this country.

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What determines high or substantial transmission? - mintirish 2021-08-02 13:05:18
- It’s on the CDC site but - vermin05 2021-08-02 13:11:51
  - Where did they get those numbers? - mintirish 2021-08-02 13:20:28
    - "percent of hospitalizations to cases has gone way down - ufl 2021-08-02 14:27:31
      - Thanks for posting the data - mintirish 2021-08-02 14:55:57
      - On your part b question - OrangeJubilee 2021-08-02 14:38:02
        I certainly expect (hope) that this will work with deaths - ufl 2021-08-02 14:43:01
        It is evident in the UK data, but not in the Florida data - Father Nieuwland 2021-08-02 14:56:24
        Also evident in the NL data - ndhouston 2021-08-02 15:36:30
        I expect a smart quant guy will probably construct a formula - Father Nieuwland 2021-08-02 15:42:03
        You'll need to account for vax distribution as well - ndhouston 2021-08-02 15:49:27
        Where may one find U.K. hospitalization data over time? * - ufl 2021-08-02 15:11:33
        . (link) - Father Nieuwland 2021-08-02 15:15:47
        Thanks * - ufl 2021-08-02 15:18:59
        Yeah it's all supposition right now - OrangeJubilee 2021-08-02 14:56:16
        Testing is way down - mintirish 2021-08-02 14:58:35
    - Hospitalizations are a lagging indicator. - ndroman21 2021-08-02 14:03:12
      - As I said - but you can't use last year's case numbers - mintirish 2021-08-02 14:10:22
        Do we have data on Delta in a partially vax'd populace? - ndroman21 2021-08-02 14:29:47
    - We used those numbers as well. - ewillND 2021-08-02 13:46:35
    - Probably via a committee of public health experts - vermin05 2021-08-02 13:33:16
      - They are not new - mintirish 2021-08-02 14:12:02
        Since the vast majority of cases are amongst the unvax'd.... - ndroman21 2021-08-02 14:31:51
        but we are talking about vaccinated people wearing masks - mintirish 2021-08-02 14:53:55
No. Your 1st post is the reason. - Steelhop 2021-08-02 12:51:30
- The CDC was pretty clear that it was the - SUJB9 2021-08-02 13:18:58
- That’s how they got it, but that’s not the important part - vermin05 2021-08-02 13:04:08
  - So let's go through your 2nd paragraph - Steelhop 2021-08-02 13:29:04
    - My off ramp is not having high or substantial spread - vermin05 2021-08-02 13:35:11
      - That isn't a standard. Cases aren't in any way - Steelhop 2021-08-02 14:44:11
        ufl's posts below say there isn't much of a decoupling. - ndroman21 2021-08-02 14:55:49
        I don't know how to embed images - Steelhop 2021-08-02 16:17:39