1 question now: how worthless & arrogant is Jack?
by ndgotrobbedin97 (2018-05-24 09:40:21)
Edited on 2018-05-24 09:42:38

We are now 1 season short of a decade of Aoki, which has offered almost continuous failure. After 9 years (!!) the pitching staff is likely as bad as it has been since the early 1980's. If you can't develop any reliable pitching pipeline in 9 years, what is the argument for the next several?

In year 9 we witnessed freshmen playing key roles throughout the lineup and pitching staff....because that's just how weak the talent acquisition effort was in the first 8.

All this being said, I will bet a large sum of money---as I do every year----that the arrogance in the AD's office will not admit failure. There will be no admission that finishing 12th out of 14 teams with a .333 conference winning percentage in year 9 is failure. Instead, they will point to the sporadic wins over the better teams in the conference, and the LSU series as "proof" that the plan is working.

Of course, this won't be done publicly, because that would take a spine...and as far as I can tell, there is none to be found. By my count, we are now going on 4 years without a public comment on the baseball program from the AD. I know he has spoken to private donor groups, but nothing in the (lesser) public forum to my knowledge, but please correct me if I'm wrong. I'd actually love to read his comments.

Many people on this board would tell you that football is Jack's biggest failure at ND. Yet, at least the football program still has the attention of the outside world. I would argue that the complete (and almost final) decimation of a once proud baseball program is Jack's "finest" hour at ND.

He has failed this program in every way possible, at every turn possible. To allow a head coach in ANY sport at ND to compile a .500 record through almost a decade is a joke. Aoki now stands at 224-223-1 (thank god for that tie, huh?).

I have zero confidence in the AD to actually step up and do his job, admit a failed decision 9 years ago, and move on. Instead, we'll focus on the (few) positives, hope for the ACC to suddenly tail off as a baseball conference, and keep on keeping on.

i haven't wanted to comment on the season, as it does no good. There was no hope from early on. Same old, same old. Losing to sub-par out of conference foes, giving away games late, squandering any chance for an at-large bid to the NCAA, which is really the ONLY hope ND has.

The ONLY time that really matters at ND as it concerns the baseball program is the next 1-2 weeks now that the season is over. If Mik Aoki is still the coach at that point, there is ZERO reason for any of us to still care, and to still comment. This program is in a hapless, hopeless state. There is only one person that can correct that, but don't hold your breath.




I hate to rain on an excellent rant
by ShermanOaksND  (2018-05-24 11:36:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

but this was "only" Aoki's 8th season. It's Purple Face who's embarking on year 9. I know, it's hard to keep them straight.


Hey, that brings his avg # of wins up by 3.1 per season!
by ndzippy  (2018-05-24 17:04:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

28 wins per year looks much better than 24.9!


Exactly 1 game over .500 for 8 seasons
by ShermanOaksND  (2018-05-25 09:58:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

That's an average of 1/8th of a game over .500 per season.

Nine will be fine!!!!1!!!!


Either way 8+9 still equals 17 as in the number of runs
by cbo86  (2018-05-24 14:38:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Clemson scored in the 4th yesterday. You almost have to try to give up that many runs. That was Globe Trotteresque.


that's only three scores
by cujaysfan  (2018-05-25 11:44:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

two TDs and a FG


It was featured on MLB Network today
by ndgotrobbedin97  (2018-05-24 15:04:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Is that the kind of publicity Jack is thinking of for this program?

That HAS to be the low point of Aoki's sorry tenure. And yes, somehow even while compiling his overall record I ignored that Kelly had a year on him. So, gee....I should probably take it all back and apologize. Who could be expected to find a couple reliable starting pitchers and bullpen guys after 8 years, all while offering one of the most valuable educational experiences in all the world.

One other oversight on my part.....Jack DID release a brief comment when he re-upped Aoki for 2018 (press conference? press conference?? Bah!). He noted that South Bend is "a very tough place to play baseball".

Really Jack? I know 2 guys who didn't find it all that difficult. One of them was on your schedule this year, genius. The other has something named after him in your baseball stadium. Wonder what their thoughts would be on that comment.


That has to be a record in MLB and NCAA,,,,,and Babe Ruth,
by cbo86  (2018-05-25 08:56:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Stan Musial, Connie Mack, Cranberry, Cape Cod, high school, YMCA, Little...oh crap every league.


The modern MLB record is 17 runs in an inning
by ShermanOaksND  (2018-05-25 09:56:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The Red Sox did it in the 7th inning at Fenway versus the Tigers in a 23-3 win on June 18, 1953. The all-time record is 18 by the Cubs (then called the White Stockings) against the Detroit Wolverines in a 26-6 win on September 6, 1883.

In other words, most of us never had seen this in our lifetimes.


Looks like 21 is the NCAA record -we should have gone for it
by NDoggie78  (2018-05-25 10:04:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

"The NCAA record for most runs in any inning is 21 held by Wichita State and Pennsylvania, each coming in the sixth inning of 1984 and 1983 games, respectively."


Thanks for saving me the grim research, Sherman. *
by cbo86  (2018-05-25 10:03:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post