Historical question: from when/where is this film of Rock?
by oldtownirish (2018-12-10 09:07:37)

While I love this footage of Knute Rockne speaking to his team in the locker room, I wonder what game this comes from? Given the prominence of Jack Chevigny (lower right-hand corner), I am guessing 1928. Thanks for any help.




This proves that Kelly is a disciple of Rockne -
by ndhouston  (2018-12-10 13:57:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

"And we're not going to pass unless their secondary comes up too close."

See, even Rockne knew that you can't run against 8 in the box.

/ducking empties


That was a recreation (link)
by Bill Hickey  (2018-12-10 10:11:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I was about to post the same link. *
by G.K.Chesterton  (2018-12-10 12:59:56)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


1928
by olson  (2018-12-10 09:55:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

based on the starting lineup Rockne mentions at the beginning of the tape it had to be 1928

Rock mentions
Ends: Colrick and Collins(Eddie)
backs: Jimmy(Brady), Niemiec,Chevigny and Collins((Fred)

this is the only year all of those players played together...albeit most that Rock mentioned were reserves in 1927(E Eddie Collins didn't play much & Brady, Fred Collins, Niemiec and Chevigny didn't start in '27)

QB Jim Brady Pocatello ID
FB Fred Collins Portland Ore. Columbia Prep
HB Jack Chevigny Hammond Ind
HB John Neimiec Bellaire Oh
E John Colrick Newark NJ St Benedict
E Eddie Collins Chicago St Ignatius

likely starting line (though Rock didn't mention them in speech)
T Fred Miller Milwaukee Wis E Milwaukee HS
G George Leppig Cleveland Oh East
C Tim Moynihan Chicago St Phillips
G John Law Yonkers NY
T Ted Twomey Duluth, Mn Catholic

Frank Leahy was a soph. reserve tackle on that team


FYI: Have you read "The Last Chalkline" about Chevigny?
by Giggity_Giggity  (2018-12-10 10:02:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

A very well-researched book and one I enjoyed immensely (probably second only to my favorite ND history book, "Notre Dame and the Game that Changed College Football).


Fabulous book! *
by oldtownirish  (2018-12-10 10:22:48)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


olson, thank you! Any guess on game? * *
by oldtownirish  (2018-12-10 09:57:05)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


just a guess- vs Army @ Yankee Stadium
by olson  (2018-12-10 10:06:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

an underdog Notre Dame won 12-6


ND then lost the next game at home to Carnegie Tech...the first home loss for ND since 1905....and the only home lost of Rockne's ND career


That was the "Win One for the Gipper" game *
by ShermanOaksND  (2018-12-10 11:10:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Untrue
by stanford_77  (2018-12-10 11:17:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Garth Brooks said on CBS that the Gipper speech happened at Notre Dame Stadium. He showed everyone the plaque


Johnny 'One Play' O'Brien
by olson  (2018-12-10 11:52:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The legend of 'One Play' O'Brien was that this little used substitute caught the winning td pass vs Army that day....thus earning his nickname 'One Play'.

The reality was something different. "One Play' had caught 2 consecutive crucial passes in the opener vs Loyola-getting ND to the Loyola(NO) 2. ND scored the winning td on the next play (12-6 victory).

O'Brien played enough to letter as a soph in 1928 & lettered again on both the 1929 & 1930 National Champs.

3 time letter winner Johnny O'Brien (Los Angeles Cal LA High) later became an assistant coach for Elmer Layden. He was killed in a car accident in the spring of 1937. The ND spring 'Old Timers' game was held in O'Brien's honor-with the proceeds going to his widow.

Although Rockne had called the annual spring game 'The Old Timers' game, until that '37 game, the 'Old Timers' team was mostly made up of graduating seniors.

In 1937, many "Old Timers' returned for this spring game- and a tradition was born that lasted until 1967). All of the 4 Horsemen were there that day(of course one of them, Elmer Layden was the HC). Moose Krause and Frank Leahy were also there. It was said that this game was the only time that Leahy & Krause ever suited up together for an ND game...Moose was only a Frosh in 1930 (Frosh were not eligible for the varsity) when Leahy was a senior.


If the 'One Play' legend isn't exactly true, who knows, maybe Garth Brooks wasn't mistaken about the 'Win One for the Gipper' speech. Rumor was Rock used that line more than once.......


"Win just a few for the Gipper" *
by ShermanOaksND  (2018-12-10 13:02:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post