Interesting application of the Medical Redshirt rule.
by TWO (2019-02-12 11:44:35)

Wash State is getting an unusual ruling on the transfer of former Eastern Washington QB Gage Guburd who had a great career at EWU threw for almost 10K yards in his career and was FCS player of the year in 2016. Had he not been injured he would have exhausted his eligibility in 2018.

But he was injured in the 5th game and didn't play again. The Med redshirt rule says you can't play in more than 1/3 of the your teams games to be granted one. But his team went to the FCS finals and played 15 games so he qualified and was granted the Med Redshirt which he is using as a Grad Transfer to Wazzu.

The Pirate just keeps falling into these type of QB's. Last year it was the Stash guy from E.Carolina and now this kid.

When Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa went down in the game vs Michigan, and immediately everybody thought of the new redshirt rule that would allow him to rehab and play late in the season and as long as he didn't play in more than 4 games he got the redshirt. But had he played for Alabama or Clemson who played 15 games, he could have gotten hurt in the 5th game and qualified for the Med Redshirt. Since ND at most could have played 14 games this year he'd have fallen short of getting the Med Redshirt. Doubt if it's a rule that'll come into play very often, but interesting that it's there and an option for those 2 teams that reach the CFP finals.


The reporting hasn't accurately reflected what happened.
by No Right Turn on Red  (2019-02-13 11:11:34)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

For medical redshirts, NCAA rules let you count 1 for participation in a conference championship (regardless of how many games you end up playing), but do not allow you to count postseason competition after the regular season and conference tournament for the 30% number. So there's no way EWU was able to use 15 in their denominator. Since there's no conference championships in FCS, they had to put 11 in the denominator. 11 * .3 = 3.3, which gets rounded up to 4.

Gubrud played in five games, so he's beyond the 30% threshold, which is why the NCAA had to get involved. EWU may have successfully appealed his medical redshirt getting denied to the NCAA, or the NCAA may have approved him for a sixth year (which is a different waiver that had to be filed anyway), considering last year a lost season, even if he didn't get a medical redshirt. Either way, reporting that he qualified for a redshirt because EWU made it to the title game is inaccurate.


The new football four-game redshirt rule is separate from the medical redshirt rule. It's actually essentially eliminated medical redshirts from football because, generally, the most games a team can play for medical redshirt calculation purposes is 13 (12 regular season + 1 conference championship). 13 * .3 = 3.9, rounded up to 4. If you play in four games or less, it's doesn't count as a season used (whether you only play four because of injury, academics, athletic ability, etc.), so the need for a medical redshirt is gone. The only exception is if a team plays Hawaii, or some other extra game, which would allow 13 regular season games and a conference championship to get you to 14 games in the denominator. 14 * .3 = 4.2, rounded up to 5. In that instance, a kid would need a medical redshirt to get that year back.

Playoff and bowl games do count toward the four-game redshirt rule, so if you play in the first three games and then the playoff semifinal and final, you've used a season. If you play in the playoffs, you don't qualify for a medical redshirt because you can't play in the second half of the season to get one.


Michigan sucks