Point of Clarification on 1,000 player hours
by Irish Warrior (2019-05-24 10:33:48)

In reply to: Data on concussions in rugby and the NFL  posted by plaid_pants


While Rugby may use a moving clock, the action is almost constant, there's very little down time. I'd only be guessing, but with rugby, I'd imagine there's actually 40-50 minutes of actual action in an 80 minute match. In football, there's far more down time than game time. According to the linked article, the ball is actually in play a mere 11 minutes in an hour long game. To truly compare these, that has to be taken into account and I'd imagine once you do that, there's very little comparison.

According to this article, https://www.theroar.com.au/2012/09/03/how-long-is-a-rugby-match-really/, the ball is in play an average of 44 minutes. That's exactly 4 times as much as in football.




Another aspect though
by SixShutouts66  (2019-05-24 13:16:46)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

In Rugby actual physical contact occurs during scrums and tackles; whereas in football the front 7 usually has some form of contact on each play plus others at times. I suspect the number of tackles in rugby exceeds the number of tackles in football, plus most rugby tackles involve single players without a running start. It would be interesting to see if scrums produce the most concussions. In short, it's hard to have simple metrics.


NRL average is 300 tackles per game per team
by plaid_pants  (2019-05-24 17:30:48)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

So it is quite a bit more contact.

Rugby league has more data available than rugby union. League is the more violent of the two due to two rule differences. First, the defence must retreat 10 meters after each tackle which results in each run having a more velocity as both runner and tackler get a nice head start to build up speed. Second, you only have five tackles to go the length of the field - no first downs. So on every fifth phase, there is a kick and mad chase which results in some heavy collisions. Rugby union has less of these events.

Just last week there were two incidents in NRL where guys got hit so hard their hands were still in the air in a seizure position while they were knocked out on the ground. It’s not even head on head contact that does it. In one instance the player bent down for the ball and the defender’s hip side swiped his neck. In the other instance, the player was knocked backwards and the back of his head hit the ground.