Devine was not made for the pro game
by sprack (2019-05-27 17:05:58)
Edited on 2019-05-27 17:09:52

In reply to: Dan Devine mentioned in one Starr article today.  posted by G.K.Chesterton


He’s got a lot of company there.

But to be fair, he didn’t inherit a good team in the first place.


Neither was Holtz *
by Frank Drebin  (2019-05-30 13:56:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I wonder if Devine ever regretted leaving Mizzou...
by Scoop80  (2019-05-28 22:30:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The Tigers went to 4 major bowls under him, winning twice. He is the only Mizzou HC since 1921 to finish w/ a W/L % of over .700. He could've retired from there as a local legend. While there were 3 mediocre Bengston years separating Lombardi from Devine, the Lombardi expectations persisted through Devine's tenure. We both personally recall how the Parseghian expectations were applied to Devine at ND. He was endured his first 2 1/2 years, and he was tolerated thereafter.


He never would have won an NC at Mizzou
by sprack  (2019-05-29 12:14:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

So I'd hope long term he had no regrets, but I would have to think he regretted going to the NFL in the same way Lou Holtz regretted it, and many other college coaches who did the same.

I also always got the impression that he was a "don't look back, look forward" guy.


He never would’ve been the big meanie who wouldn’t let...
by Scoop80  (2019-05-29 22:47:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Rudy suit up, either:


Devine to the Packers
by Cliff Claven  (2019-05-29 09:49:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I once read that the packers were trying to hire Bob Devaney from Nebraska but some front office guy for the packers mixed up the names.

I googled the subject and found an article but it won'y let me insert the link

Cliffy


That's patently ridiculous
by sprack  (2019-05-29 12:22:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

First of all, Devaney retired from coaching completely after the 1972 season, to be athletic director at NU only, comfortable in turning the coaching reins over to Tom Osborne.

Second, Devine had a stellar record at Mizzou.

Third, nobody is that dumb.


Here is the link
by Cliff Claven  (2019-05-29 21:43:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

From the article
"Over time, members of the Packers organization from back then told me Olejniczak got his names mixed up during the search. He contacted Devine when he meant to pursue Bob Devaney, coach at the University of Nebraska.

Several people shared that story with me, but with different scenarios that I never thought added up, especially long after the fact. But your question got me digging through old interviews and files, and the most credible of my sources was personnel director Pat Peppler, who had been hired by Lombardi and was running the Packers’ football operation during the coaching search.

Peppler admitted he couldn’t prove the story was true, but the way he told it was more plausible than other versions I’ve heard. Most never explained how the seed was planted. Innocently was Peppler’s explanation

Peppler, who died three years ago, said someone simply recommended Devaney to Olejniczak and the latter got the names confused"

Cliffy


One comment I don’t recall hearing about either of them
by ShermanOaksND  (2019-05-27 19:54:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Was “How did they manage to lose with all that talent?” Both did well to make the playoffs once each with those motley crews.


Yep. Devine’s QB was Jerry Tagge
by sprack  (2019-05-27 20:03:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Tagge was overrated coming out of college because he was on great Nebraska teams that won consecutive NC’s. He had a very good college career but those teams were so loaded that it made him look better than he was as a pro prospect. Didn’t hurt that he beat Devine’s Mizzou teams either.

There was almost nobody left on the Packers from the Great Lombardi teams.


local boy - Green Bay West.
by ACross  (2019-05-28 13:54:26)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

His heir was Bud Keyes.

Little know fact: Green Bay has shithole public schools. Just fucking dumps. I think they have built one in the last 50 years, Southwest. And that place is a dump too.

Green Bay East - dump. West - dump. Preble - dump.

My defunct high school was a dump, but that was part of its Chocolate War charm, as editors of the Milwaukee Journal and WSJ can attest.