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by olson (2019-07-16 15:58:14)
Edited on 2019-08-07 22:09:21

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Michigan went 5-0 in 1918 and it's one of the NCs.
by domer4  (2019-07-19 20:12:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Knew about the flu - but didn't figure that many varsity players were off to war.

Surprised ND didn't just grab our NC for 1919 and 9-0.


Wow on the Carlinville-Taylorville game.
by G.K.Chesterton  (2019-07-17 13:49:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The Packers were involved along with Notre Dame so double interest there. My mother was born and raised just south of Taylorville but I'd never heard this story (no surprise - she's not a football fan and was born after 1924).

Much more on the story at the link.

I went down a rabbit hole late last night to find out about Fort Wayne T.O.P. but came up empty.

Amazing story about Gus Desch and track.

Many thanks as well.


Olson, you are simply amazing!
by Dennis  (2019-07-16 16:35:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

How you know all of this is beyond human reasoning. I read all of your posts but you still blow me away at times. I've read a zillion ND books, especially about the Rockne years, and I still don't know 1/10 of what you know. You're the best!


Notre Dame football's 7 Mules
by olson  (2019-07-17 11:16:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post



I have read many articles (mostly on the Internet) where people claim that this player or another was one of ND's famed 7 Mules.

It appears that for some people, all one needs to be considered to be one of the 7 Mules was to have been an ND football lineman (reserve or not) sometime during the period between 1922 & 1924.


The 7 Mules were seven distinct ND linemen who started for Notre Dame in front of the 4 Horsemen (also 4 distinct players) on the 1924 National Championship team....see picture of them in linked article(second picture from the bottom).

Of the 7, only 3 initially came to ND on a football 'scholarship':

*Adam Walsh C Hollywood, Cal Hollywood High
*Chuck Collins E Oak Park Ill St Ignatius
*Edgar 'Rip' Miller T Canton, Oh McKinley

2 of the 7 Mules had been Interhall stars promoted to play on the varsity

*Ed Hunsinger E Chillicothe Oh
*John Weibel G Erie Pa

1 came to ND to play basketball

*Nobel Kizer G Plymouth, Ind

1 transferred to ND from Carleton College

*Joe Bach T Chisholm, Mn


The 3 football scholarship 'Mules' were in the same 1921 ND recruiting class as the 4 Horsemen....ironically, this was one of Rockne worst Frosh football squads-finishing 3-3 (the '25 Frosh finished 1-3...but Rock split that squad for 2 games one day & the 'split' Frosh lost both games).

The '21 Frosh played without QB Stuldreyer(who broke his ankle)-Layden played QB on the '21 Frosh squad...and most of the season without Adam Walsh-who broke his shoulder(collarbone?)


Did Joe Bach know 'Doc' Graham, seeing as he was from
by Slotts  (2019-07-19 16:32:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Chisholm, MN.


You are NEVER talking to yourself
by Dennis  (2019-07-17 12:06:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

when you are on this board. I am trying to recall if I once met Adam Walsh at an Oregon-ND game in Eugene in 1982. It was the first time I ever attended an ND game in person and, of course, we played like crap (it was the Faust era after all) and got a tie. I know that I met Father Joyce for a minute or two.