Chip Long may be gone? Alabama OC? *
by supernd (2018-01-15 05:54:29)

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Agents are always stirring up the pot. *
by Indy77  (2018-01-15 15:11:18)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Jack always bites on these...well, except for Elko. *
by Brahms  (2018-01-15 15:17:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


So did Kevin White to the tune of $18M *
by Indy77  (2018-01-15 20:39:05)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Jack’s not gonna fall for the banana in the tailpipe, Jack.
by 1NDGal  (2018-01-15 15:58:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Probably.


I can't imagine Alabama would be interested
by Groundhog  (2018-01-15 14:05:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

His performances against the better teams on the schedule were poor. There is also the thought that he wasn't even play caller at Memphis.


The guy has 5 games experience calling plays under Kelly...
by Brahms  (2018-01-15 14:43:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...he's ready !


But the paint isn't even dry yet !
by Brahms  (2018-01-15 10:58:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Otherwise, why the hell not...

Own it, Jack.


I wonder why Saban didn't call Diaco *
by irishrock  (2018-01-15 10:43:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Intimidated by his dreamy hair.
by Brahms  (2018-01-15 11:09:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But, hey, you know, hats off to Bob Diaco for that...


You also couldn't have that many italians on one
by dwjm3  (2018-01-15 11:52:53)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

coaching staff...It would break the universe


Probably more Italians than in the entire state of Alabama
by tf86  (2018-01-16 20:06:42)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Absent the coaching staff, of course.


Bama fails. They lose coordinators a lot. *
by dillon301  (2018-01-15 10:33:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


They are generally hired for clear promotional opportunities
by Jvan  (2018-01-15 10:56:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Whereas Kelly’s coordinators leave for lateral jobs or schools below the power five level. His coaching tree is truly unimpressive, especially compared to Saban’s.


Has any coordinator since Alvarez left ND for a major conf
by Tex Francisco  (2018-01-15 11:40:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

HC job? I realize Wisconsin was a bottom feeder at the time, but they were still in a major conference, although I feel like merely being a member of a particular conference, regardless of success in that conference, was less meaningful back then.


Bob Davie to Notre Dame *
by KevinG  (2018-01-15 18:07:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Dave Roberts to Baylor in 1997? *
by tmr779  (2018-01-15 12:00:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I can't think Diaco flailing helped matters *
by irishrock  (2018-01-15 11:42:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Sounds like pure conjecture
by garbageplate  (2018-01-15 10:19:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I think Saban will aim much higher.


Maybe
by BIG MAC  (2018-01-15 10:41:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Just maybe, Saban thinks more of him than you do. Also, he may be one of several candidates and may not be their first choice. All in all though, we are turning into a farm team for SEC teams looking for assistants.


And yet, somehow, zero interest in the head coach. ZNAN.
by IrishJosh24  (2018-01-15 10:57:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Zero. None. Absolutely none.


What evidence suggests that Saban thinks highly of him? *
by garbageplate  (2018-01-15 10:54:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Uhhh. The post was titled "Maybe". *
by BIG MAC  (2018-01-16 15:01:34)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Yes, good point
by garbageplate  (2018-01-16 15:04:25)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Maybe I'll win the lottery.


MAC schools don't have this much turnover *
by Tiger Stadium  (2018-01-15 10:09:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Swarbrick shocked. Shocked I tell you.
by MR_IRISH  (2018-01-15 10:01:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I would say this is getting comical if it weren't so demoralizing.


What message will Jack read into all of this?
by Brahms  (2018-01-15 11:06:13)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I mean, not publically ("...only goes to show that we're doing it right at ND..."), but seriously.

What a shit show.

Own it, Jack.


I can see the spin right now
by irishrock  (2018-01-15 11:11:21)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

JS is saying to everybody, "look at who hired our coordinators. I've done it once and can do it again"

But Jack, you lost those guys in lateral moves. And Long went to Saban who is known for two things: being tough to work for and getting his guys hired as head coaches. BK is only known for one of those things.


Just glad we locked down Lea ! *
by Brahms  (2018-01-15 14:45:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


It's all about Swarbrick cashing large checks...Nothing else *
by Wolfetone  (2018-01-15 10:20:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


This is what 4-8 in 2016 gets you...
by MNND  (2018-01-15 09:58:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

* A sellout in the first big home game of 2017, but filled with fans of the competition
* Staff that leaves after they prove themselves at ND - if they could do it here, they can surely do it where "things are easier".
* Players that leave early for the draft
* etc., etc.


But everyone loves Kelly !
by Brahms  (2018-01-15 11:00:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He's not having to do the fundraising any more, he's delegating, he's left no stone un-turned.

He's more proven and loved than ever !


You failed to mention
by BIG MAC  (2018-01-15 10:06:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

A more difficult recruiting environment.The new staff worked really hard and averted an all out disaster, but we could have done so much better with a 10-2, or even a 9-3 season. Winning counts, especially with elite recruits.


yes, add it to the list
by MNND  (2018-01-15 11:26:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

10-3, 10-3, 10-3...now we'd start to look like a consistent program, and to your point, maybe we would start to get some 5* studs to get us over the top. But inconsistent fundamentals, break downs in S&C, game plans too heavily focused on QB decision making and precision throws v. beating up inferior opponents...

Agreed the staff has stepped up recruiting, but, if we have the right person that should have been the case starting in year 2 or 3 at the latest. Not a concern in year 8.

Choir preaching, I know.


Chuck Martin on speed dial, for the run game. *
by 84david  (2018-01-15 09:57:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Martin + Diaco + Molnar = Kelly Kickoff Classic !
by Brahms  (2018-01-15 11:12:53)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

"We're Getting the Band Back Together 2018"


you'd think Alabama would aim higher *
by oggie  (2018-01-15 09:35:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Why? He's finished his internship...
by Brahms  (2018-01-15 11:01:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...which consisted of games 1-5 before BK stepped in and showed him how to call an offense and groom a QB...


Maybe he wants to work for a coach who won’t
by KnightlyRevue  (2018-01-15 09:33:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

mysteriously abandon the run at the tail end of the season.

In all seriousness, if the choice is Kelly versus Saban to learn and grow under why even bother listing reasons for departure. Even at less pay, and we all know it won’t be for less pay, the choice is an easy one.


would be a no brainer for Long to move on
by irishrock  (2018-01-15 09:06:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He'll get coached as hard as the players. He'll learn a ton. He'll make a ton of money. Then, he'll get a really good head coaching job.


If they don’t win the NC next year with 40 PPG
by DakotaDomer  (2018-01-15 09:58:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He’ll be crucified

Still a no brainer but there’s a bit of risk in taking a job with an expectation of complete perfection from top to bottom.


It would be nice if a PTB looked up from his balance sheet
by VaDblDmr  (2018-01-15 08:50:53)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

long enough to notice.


No credible reports of this (yet) *
by Marylanddomer  (2018-01-15 08:20:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


So wait. Edit -- The OC of a team that lost to
by 1NDGal  (2018-01-15 08:17:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

an anemic Georgia team at home and got destroyed by Miami in 2017 is in the running to be OC at a team that has won 5 NCs in 8 years? [I was mistaken that Long was here in 2016. I thought he was here that year but in practice deprived of playcalling authority.]

And our ex-DC is now the highest-paid coordinator in CFB (at least top 3 without incentives).

Our OL won the Joe Moore Award, Jaylon Smith would have been the #1 overall pick in 2015, Kyle Rudolph is a Pro Bowl MVP, Will Fuller went in the first round -- the list of outstanding players goes on and on.

Irrefutable proof that the only thing that has been standing between Notre Dame and a championship is Brian Kelly.


"Irrefutable proof"? Really? *
by SUJB9  (2018-01-15 12:10:13)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Yes, Really. Really, really, really. *
by mr.natural  (2018-01-15 14:03:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Really, really, really, really? *
by SUJB9  (2018-01-15 14:07:18)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


This post is confusing
by Reagan84  (2018-01-15 08:51:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Long wasn’t OC in 2016. Rudolph played 6 games for Kelly


But he was the Pro Bowl MVP!! *
by Nigeltufnel  (2018-01-15 09:04:25)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


He left early. *
by 1NDGal  (2018-01-15 09:24:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Kyle Rudolph is not a good example
by Reagan84  (2018-01-15 09:29:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Of Kelly’s success or failure in developing players. He played 6 games for Kelly. It allowed Eifert to emerge.


There's a flip side to this "he only played 6 games" point.
by 1NDGal  (2018-01-15 09:48:12)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

And, again: he left early.


Not really. Stop posting.
by reagan84  (2018-01-15 12:16:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

he could have come back and got injured again.


Perfect *
by 1NDGal  (2018-01-15 20:18:33)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Anyone with a first round grade should leave early. *
by Leeroy_Jenkins  (2018-01-15 09:54:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


? *
by Bostonirish  (2018-01-15 08:45:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Long wasn't at ND in 2016. *
by supernd  (2018-01-15 08:39:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Sally tried to make chicken salad out of chicken $hit.
by irishintheville  (2018-01-15 08:09:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He will give us his next version of reality here shortly.


Well, at least we'll always have Crossroads. *
by Dadknuknutesson  (2018-01-15 07:58:25)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


If this happens, it will illustrate a couple things
by oneill3b  (2018-01-15 07:44:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

1. Savvy actually did find some good coordinators; and
2. Savvy failed to realize that these good coordinators wouldn’t want to work for long for a boss who was inferior to them as a coach, which made this whole 2.0 strategy an ill-conceived effort.


On the flip side, ND can offer these guys a HC position.
by MistakenD  (2018-01-15 10:36:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Maybe?


Under Swarbrick Notre Dame is a minor league affiliate.... *
by Wolfetone  (2018-01-15 08:09:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Kelly 2.0 smothered in his crib. *
by captaineclectic  (2018-01-15 07:36:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Like Rosemary's baby...oh wait... *
by Wooderson  (2018-01-15 07:54:26)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Link. (link)
by Steel_City_Irish  (2018-01-15 06:26:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


So, hiring southern-fried mercenaries has worked well *
by a59075  (2018-01-15 06:21:46)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


They are all mercenaries. The issue is
by Reagan84  (2018-01-15 07:30:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

We are a second rate program. Kelly


Not a worry, Tom Rees will step right in as the new OC
by Patrick Bateman  (2018-01-15 06:08:48)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

and the offense won’t miss a beat!


Tom Rees is one of Kelly's guys !
by Brahms  (2018-01-15 11:04:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

And, what would you expect: we've picked the GVSU coaching tree bare !