What more can you ask for?
We're not the only team suffering. For the first time in a decade FSU might not get a 24/7 composite 5* recruit this year.
Says he isn't the only coach trying to recruit Chaffey Junior College for soul speed.
Just another BK excuse, he doesn’t do more than any other Coach and in fact has been reduced greatly since Weis. Several mods have confirmed this is no longer an issue. Reality is BK himself has chosen not to be an aggressive recruiter and it’s why we no longer land the elite top 50 type players because they require more effort from the HC. Hate CW all yo7 want but at least he didn’t get outworked on the recruiting trail.
Did you?
Can you tell me how many of the top 40 had ND offers. Several top 40 prospects do not have the grades for ND, Stanford etc.
And a couple without offers were QBs we probably never pursued because of our early Jurkovec commitment and one guy with an offer from a smart school.
That may not reflect the whole top 40. But I’d guess that’s probably typical.
...despite the recruiting restrictions. We're always going to have recruiting restrictions; we did in the 1980s and 1990s, and we do today. Nothing has changed except Brian Kelly's inability to attract top recruits despite winning at a higher rate than his objectively incompetent predecessors.
The primary issue is many kids don't want to play for a coach who's known for screaming himself purple at his players -- and cavalierly tossing them under the bus to the media -- and winning eight games a year while utilizing an inflexible and ineffective offensive system and operating a virtual carousel at defensive coordinator.
Weis had at least coached and made a name for himself in the NFL, something Kelly can only dream about.
You're not wrong, but that doesn't mean that we only got 1 in the last 5 years because we could only offer that one. Not even close.
Autry Denson worked really hard to get Davis. He was a 5 Star LB (#10 overall player in the 2016 class).
He is from Alabama and his dad is a former AL player. I don’t remember all of the schools involved, but both ND and AL were involved. Of course Davis announced on Signing Day that he was going to AL. Davis redshirted in 2016. I am not sure how much he played this past season.
This was a kid that ND spent a lot of time recruiting. Unfortunately, I just don’t see Kelly ever winning battles against Saban.
There is plenty of talent at ND. However, if you don’t have the top 40 difference making players, the coaching staff has to be top notch. I think we know where Kelly ranks with other coaches in this regard.
After 8 years, Kelly seems no closer to understanding it than when he started. That's probably why he's been so hellbent into turning it into something else.
Despite his lack of head coaching skill and boorish behavior, I think Weis could authentically sell Notre Dame to an elite athlete. I suspect Kelly comes across more like a run of the mill politician promising that Progress is his middle name.
He may have "gotten it." But it meant fuck-all on the field.
Weis had success his first two years because all the pieces were in place for him; a quarterback who had a good arm and was coachable, 2-3 wide receivers who played at a very high level their junior and senior years, a veteran tight end who could catch, a running back who was a solid receiver out of the backfield and an offensive line talented enough to allow the plays to develop.
Once he had to build a team from scratch, he was fucked.
Plus he was a bona fide arrogant asshole with numerous documented episodes of him shitting on alumni and fans alike.
You can tell it's gotten really bad that we're to the point of being nostalgic for Charlie Fucking Weis.
Sorry but Weis basically had 2 recruiting classes (last Davie, first TW) and then the 2 recruiting classes that were the equivalent to the death penalty were juniors and seniors in 2008. Blaming CW for that is simply stupid. He had one year with his recruiting classes - and it wasn't a good year, but it wasn't 4-8 either. He was a significantly better in-game coach than our current head coach. I'd go as far as to say Charlie Weis saved Notre Dame football. Nobody of significance wanted that job seeing TW put the program in a deep ditch. I completely agree that Charlie had his drawbacks, and some were significant, but much of what happened to him is not his fault. And need I remind you who's recruits almost completely dominated the field for BK's 12-0 season? So if you want to rip Charlie's attitude, fine. If you want to rep his last year's on-field product, fair. But to refer to him as you did above is just dumb and completely lacks perspective or appreciation of where TW left the program, which was on the side of the road in a ditch to die. Its just too bad ND couldn't have hired a better follow up to him than we have.
I just threw up in my mouth.
completely bare or hurting for depth.
But he did bust ass when targeting truly
elite 5* players. (Floyd, Tate, Teo, Clausen
Crist, to name a few.)
He (or, probably more accurately, his agent) knew our feckless leadership would be so punch drunk by our near victory over USC that they'd give him whatever he wanted -- a full seven games into a five-year contract.
I'm sure Swarbrick took up where White left off when negotiating Kelly's most recent extension.
he's convinced his boss of the same.
Starting, on, 100 years ago, we have had the following coaches who indisputably wanted to be here and weren't a threat to leave (Rockne's occasional game of chicken with the collars is of course noted for the record)
Harper
Rockne
Anderson
Layden
Leahy
Devore
Kuharich
Parseghian
Devine
Faust
Holtz
Weis
The exceptions to this rule are
Davie
Willingham
Kelly (see Eagles, dalliance with)
That's why we had to give him the monster extention.
And Rockne did more than play chicken. He signed a contract with Columbia.
Not only did I know this personally, he echoed it in a recent interview when Charlie, Jr was in the news.
It was a very good interview on Sirius College radio.
He was asked about things he would change. At Kansas, nothing... he told them it would take 6 years and he was fired in year 3 at 2-2.
At ND: "That's the biggest regret in my life. I didn't want to go anywhere else. It is my Alma Mater. I love the place. I still have a home there and a charity there and they will stay there and I will live there. My biggest regret is I put guys together on the staff that really didn't know each other well and I didn't manage that well. It's all on me. I learned a lot from that and regret what happened there but at the end of the day, that's on me."
I wonder if he was holding the Coors light that he boasts about drinking every year that he gets paid by ND despite no longer coaching there?
Weis was 6-22 there. Since he left, KU has gone 4-40.
At least he realizes how he screwed up at ND. It's impossible to tell if he's to blame for Kansas, since that program has been screwed up since Mangino was fired.
I don't think he would've jumped for any raise to any team. But for the right team and the right number, who knows. Although I think that number would've had to have been really big in those first couple years. He was really happy and he had a great family setup for his daughter's foundation. It wouldn't have been an easy sell. But he certainly maximized his position. And, while he made a comfortable salary, it wasn't deemed to be outrageous in his first two years. The number of guaranteed years, however, was outrageous. While I don't doubt that an extension would've had a positive recruiting outcome, that large of an extension was not necessary to quell the rumors.
That is, players who return for their final year and give people hope that their return will solve Kelly's coaching shortcomings?
A guy with 3 stars and 2 stripes should count as a five.
Goes by the name Lone Starr.
Before reading the caption, I thought the “anti-chafing powder” photo from the article was illustrating how they were intimate before they could have intercourse
There’s nothing to look forward to, no hope to cling to. All that’s left is just a continued decline of the last of a former powerhouse’s increasingly distant historical status.
We don't seem to come very close on the ones we do recruit.
Pay no attention to the cheating, stealing, and cloud of smoke in the car.
a strength for Weis. Still don't know how he landed the top recruiting class following the 3-9 season
but then he would whiff on entire position groups.
Going into the fall with 3 scholarship RBs, one of whom will be a true feshman.
CB’s last year.(zero point zero)
DT’s one year unless you count Tiassum/Mokwah.
Safety most years except this years class.
DE—more often than not.
Kelly always has recruiting holes somewhere.
It's the only time it's happened since Holtz was the coach.
has shot himself in the junk has been his complete inability to string together good seasons. How 2013 blew as bad as it did (let alone 2016) is beyond me, I think that was a critical point for him to keep momentum rolling with the program to drive up his recruiting and sustain it.
He was able to sell the bad year as an outlier and a huge opportunity.
dem lads do we's get? Don't be hatin on Kelly just to hate cuz he be slammin in recruiting yo.
Seriously, I am surprised he got 1.