Where was this talk on December 2nd when
by Steelhop (2019-01-09 14:47:30)

In reply to: Is this the time where the NFL rule gets challenged?  posted by El Kabong


Lawrence went 12 for 24 for 155 yards against Pitt. Ross also bailed him out on a couple of throws in that game and any QB can hit a guy when the DB falls down. Don't get me wrong he is a good Qb but you know who also won the championship Cardale Jones. Where is he right now?

And I note that the two most recent guys that challenged the NFL/NFLPA on this issue Clarret and Williams don't exactly support the conclusion that a guy 1 or 2 year out of HS is ready to play in the NFL.

One of the single biggest silent factors in the success of an NFL QB is number of starts (and wins) in college.


12-13.
by jakam31  (2019-01-09 17:42:18)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Patrick Mahomes record his only two seasons as the full-time starter at Texas Tech.

Lawrence and Tua are the two best quarterbacks in college football. Are either of them ready to run a professional offense next year? I have no idea - but neither of them would do any worse than Eli Manning.


If Lawrence could leave, he's be overall #1 this year
by eddysorin  (2019-01-09 15:28:59)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I'm not saying that it's right, I'm not saying that it's rational.

It's just the way it is.


Tua would have been #1 after last year's game
by Steelhop  (2019-01-09 17:04:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

and probably no. 1 before Monday's game. This is pure recency bias (not you but the experts).


I heard some sportztalk guys wondering if teams would draft
by rockmcd  (2019-01-09 16:34:29)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

him a year early and then just wait a year before he can play. But if I'm not mistaken, that wouldn't be an option because they would relinquish their rights after 1 year and then he'd be eligible for the following year's draft.


Risky if the team doesn’t sign him.
by MobileIrish  (2019-01-09 16:40:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I guess it would work if the team signs him after the season, but before the next draft. Of course that team would not get any value from the pick during the year following the draft.


I don't think that's even an option.
by rockmcd  (2019-01-09 21:04:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

When you are a freshman or sophomore, you are not just ineligible to be signed to a contract, you are ineligible to be drafted by any team.

Lawrence will finish his Sophomore season in January 2020. The next draft would be April 2020. Then he'll finish his Junior season in January 2021. You seem to be suggesting that a team could draft him in April 2020, sign him after he completes his Junior season in January 2021, and get a 3+ month head start on getting him ready to start his rookie season in September 2021.

Based on the rules, I don't think Lawrence can be drafted until April 2021 unless he were granted some kind of special approval that has never been granted before.

"To be eligible for the draft, players must have been out of high school for at least three years and must have used up their college eligibility before the start of the next college football season. Underclassmen and players who have graduated before using all their college eligibility may request the league’s approval to enter the draft early."


I was just speculating without facts.
by MobileIrish  (2019-01-09 21:21:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I was thinking of a Larry Bird type draft situation. Based on your info, Lawrence would not be eligible to enter the draft until his 3 years have passed.


I concur on "It's too early".
by Irishwest  (2019-01-09 15:11:48)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Let's see if he continues being "All World" with a larger sampling. The "Talking Heads" have to have something to talk about now, so why not him. Is he good? Yes, but playing College teams ( and quite a few on Clemson's schedule were iffy) is not like facing elite NFL teams. The defensive lines would be all over him and a few DC's would scheme up ways to confuse him.

He's just the latest and newest of the next super star.