I disagree with the premise. A good coach would win here

with or without Weis. Though I admit the negative swirl around ND was a bit crazy at that time. Still, it was just swirl.

That all said, this is about the description that Weis made Brady, not about Weis. I take no pleasure in his failure

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I agree with Blue Grey guys - irishrock 2019-01-21 18:10:14
- BS - 3rd year is inexcusable - Pat85 2019-01-22 02:03:50
  - TW's recruiting was a downward spiral that started out - bleedsgreen04 2019-01-22 09:35:07
    - Weis can't teach kids fundamentals. Period. He had - btd 2019-01-22 23:03:46
    - a good coach would have won 6-8 games in 07 - jt 2019-01-22 10:47:45
      - If you look at the depth chart, it's quite incredible. - Revue Party 2019-01-22 15:50:15
      - would of * - ThreeD 2019-01-22 14:33:32
      - Sure. It was a rebuilding year any way you cut it. - rockmcd 2019-01-22 13:52:10
- Weis owns the 2007 mess - jt 2019-01-21 23:37:07
  - Absolutely. - Revue Party 2019-01-22 15:18:46
  - I see your point, but if you give him the "wreck" - irishrock 2019-01-22 11:54:49
    - I have no issue giving Weis some credit for the 2012 team * - jt 2019-01-22 19:40:03
  - I attended GT, Purdue, USC, Navy and AF - meatwhistle 2019-01-22 11:39:46
  - Some of the same rot hit Kelly too. - OITLinebacker 2019-01-22 10:07:15
  - Exactly right - captaineclectic 2019-01-22 08:02:22
    - I just have a tough time seeing 4 more wins with how awful - bleedsgreen04 2019-01-22 09:42:13
      - Possibility of going 6-6 and winning the Turd Bowl * - captaineclectic 2019-01-22 11:07:40
      - we've been through this before and there are a couple of - jt 2019-01-22 10:41:25
        To rephrase your second point. - Revue Party 2019-01-22 15:21:03
- Weis recruiting played a big role in 2012 - athlete37 2019-01-21 18:58:50
  - going 6-6 with the talent he had on the 2009 roster - jt 2019-01-21 23:37:41
    - That 2009 offensive roster is really unbelievable - carroll2005 2019-01-22 09:49:33
      - 6-6 with the Biletnikoff winner, a 28/4 QB, a massive OL - athlete37 2019-01-22 10:13:35
        Weis' choices at DC are what did him in - jt 2019-01-22 10:46:25
        He also blew multiple games because he wouldn't run out - btd 2019-01-22 23:10:19
    - By my count, 5 guys would go on to at least 1 Pro Bowl - NDTommie 2019-01-22 08:57:37
  - All you needed was a good coach to over index for - SEE 2019-01-21 21:20:23