Javon McKinley was arrested
by ryND (2019-02-11 11:20:19)
Edited on 2019-02-11 11:34:22

TMZ Link (link)
by Johnnydub  (2019-02-11 17:50:13)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


In all seriousness, can we not cite to that crap site?.....
by Marine Domer  (2019-02-11 17:53:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

TMZ represents the lowest devolution of our society. A bunch of nosy paparazzi types following well known people around with cameras trying to report on anything Mr. and Mrs. Loser at home can point at to say "see, that guy/gal is no better than us!"


Sure
by HTownND  (2019-02-12 12:07:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But the article is fascinating.

Not sure what is and isn't true, but it makes it seem like everything was OK, until he realized during the walk back that he was probably in deep $hit and tried to get away, unsuccessfully.


Why would he be in deep shit? *
by El Kabong  (2019-02-12 12:16:32)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Another judge might care.....
by crazychester  (2019-02-12 19:37:21)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post




NDPD
by HTownND  (2019-02-12 12:44:02)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

found him passed out in an Uber and had to walk him home.

I suspect that wouldn't go over well in the Gug.

Deep shit doesn't mean expulsion or anything that harsh, but I'm guessing more of a, oh shit, NDPD found me passed out and are escorting me to my dorm, the coaches are going to be pissed.


NDInsider said he punched both NDPD officers. That
by 1NDGal  (2019-02-12 16:44:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

sounds like fairly deep ish to me. Tyler James reporting.


Don’t be a goddamned moron *
by ACross  (2019-02-12 22:48:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Oh, stop. It’s reported, non-paywalled news. If the NDPD
by 1NDGal  (2019-02-13 07:53:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

lied, that will be reported, too. NDInsider doesn’t do hatchet jobs.

NYPost has picked up the story, which is nice.

Charges are underage drinking, battery, resisting arrest. Misdemeanors. He is out on $250 bail.

WNDU tweet linked.


The point is
by KeoughCharles05  (2019-02-13 08:17:59)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

You're relying on NDInsider as an authority when their lone source is a police report.

It doesn't matter which or how many media organizations have reported on it at this point, they're all relying on the same source, which is not terribly reliable itself.


And perhaps there is more to the story.
by ACross  (2019-02-13 11:12:02)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Perhaps there is not. Either way, it is certainly better not to make judgments based on police reports. Or, on media reports based on police reports. As you suggest.


That's relying solely on the police report
by KeoughCharles05  (2019-02-12 19:20:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Perhaps that's how it happened. Or perhaps the police wrote a report favorable to them.


The standard for “punch” in a police report is often weak.
by Tdiddy07  (2019-02-12 20:43:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Especially when the only charge is resisting arrest.

I’m not sure whether he had any obligation for the cops to assist him home. Although I understand the police not wanting a drunk person to flee for his own safety. But if there’s no public intoxication charge, I’m having trouble seeing why they would have a right to detain him if he did not want help going home.


Nobody has heard his side of the story *
by ACross  (2019-02-12 23:15:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


If its true he struck a woman, his FB career is over.
by 84david  (2019-02-13 08:39:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

No matter the circumstances.


You cipher *
by ACross  (2019-02-13 12:34:34)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Tell that to Kareem Hunt *
by Jvan  (2019-02-13 11:55:12)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


This is a dumb post.
by KeoughCharles05  (2019-02-13 10:00:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

1) It doesn't add any value; and
2) It's a dumb position to take.

Circumstances always matter. That's the whole point of circumstances.


Joe Mixon says hello.
by beancounter  (2019-02-13 09:17:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

McKinley’s ND career might be over, but that’s that’s not what you said...


I don't think anyone would take him as a transfer.
by 84david  (2019-02-13 09:56:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Times have changed a lot since then.


woman cops are to be treated differently? *
by ACross  (2019-02-13 12:35:07)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


McKinley
by skanman  (2019-03-01 11:20:34)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Give the kid one break


IMO TMZ
by Johnnydub  (2019-02-11 18:12:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

is as a whole, brutal. I will offer though, they are way ahead and on point on certain stories than others. But, I get your complaint.


Chiefs were doing great until they broke the Hunt story
by irishrock  (2019-02-11 20:23:29)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Kareem Hunt signed with Cleveland today


No need to apologize for TMZ
by eddysorin  (2019-02-11 19:12:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

From Ray Rice to Bruce Jenner, they nail it time after time.


Yep, they “nail it” if one is obsessed with knowing....
by Marine Domer  (2019-02-11 20:14:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

the worst moments of other people’s lives. It’s sort of like the reverse Facebook. Instead of reading about the best 2% of the lives of a bunch of non-famous people we get to find out about the problems of famous people.

Put it this way, I could have lived my life comfortably without ever knowing about Ray Rice’s or Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner’s issues.


I would love to know this stat
by eddysorin  (2019-02-12 09:20:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

# of formal retractions published in the last 10 years by:

1. The New York Times
2. The Washington Post
3. TMZ

People may think Harvey Levin is a slimeball. Perhaps that's so. He's unwatchable on TV.

But I know one thing the man is not, and that is "stupid".

He's a University of Chicago trained lawyer who isn't about to see his valuable media franchise go under because of libel suits.

He goes after some of the richest, most powerful, most lawyered up people in sports and entertainment, succeeds in getting stories where all others fail, and consistently gets it right.

Appreciate him for what he is.


NewsDiff can help with story changes for NYT or WP.
by G.K.Chesterton  (2019-02-12 14:12:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Some changes are adding information. Others are altering the story significantly without documenting the change. There are other websites that can help as well.


Yeah, it’s a shame someone held Ray Rice to account
by IrishGeek  (2019-02-11 22:31:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

for that silly little misunderstanding between his fist and his wife’s face.


Yeah, because that was my point.....
by Marine Domer  (2019-02-12 10:07:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Ray Rice should have gotten away with it.


Didn't it seem like he was going to until the video? *
by Bmoreirish  (2019-02-12 10:57:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


The NFL was only going to give him a 2 game suspension
by daviehamsufferer97  (2019-02-12 13:18:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It was only the video coming out that made them change their stance publicly on their domestic violence policy.


Absolutely he was *
by eddysorin  (2019-02-12 11:21:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


And I can live without Ray Rice/Caitlin Jenner in total. *
by Wolfetone  (2019-02-11 21:28:42)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


4:47 a.m.??? What the hell was he doing out that late?
by HolyCrossHog  (2019-02-11 13:55:21)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I know it's a silly question because kids are kids but even in my finer moments as an undergrad, I was never out on the streets anywhere close to overnight. If you're out that late, you're asking for trouble.


I didn't know Fat Shirley's was still open *
by Azars31  (2019-02-13 11:27:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Pit stop at White Castle *
by RJD  (2019-02-12 17:42:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


He'd heard people party at 4:20. Thought AM *
by Notra_Dahm  (2019-02-12 16:23:13)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


The morning birds
by elcortez01  (2019-02-12 11:43:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I'd venture to say more often than not, weekend nights from spring of junior year onward ended with the sounds of birds chirping as we headed home.


Coach Kelly was heard demanding a 4:47 forty.
by ThunderDome  (2019-02-12 11:13:12)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

All a big misunderstanding.

I should have gone to law school.


Does drinking a 40 at 4:47 count? *
by PWK2  (2019-02-12 13:30:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Lee Harvey, you are a madman.
by GolfJunkie17  (2019-02-11 17:07:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

When you stole that cow, and your friend tried to make it with the cow. I want to party with you, cowboy.


You can't drink all day long if you don't start at midnight *
by Final_Flanner  (2019-02-11 15:57:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


He was just getting an early start on the "morning" part of
by knutesteen  (2019-02-11 16:16:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

how your comment is usually phrased.


Probably was rushing to attend early morning mass *
by Frank Drebin  (2019-02-11 15:11:56)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


He was scheduled for 5am perpetual adoration *
by DakotaDomer  (2019-02-11 16:11:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Ruling *
by ACross  (2019-02-11 14:53:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


IIRC, Don Larsen had a 1-car accident in wee hours during...
by Scoop80  (2019-02-11 14:44:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

spring training w/ the NYY in 50's. Casey Stengel commented that Larsen was either out really late or up really early. If he was out really late, he would've had no difficulty in finding teammates to join him.


That's what killed Tim Horton
by tf86  (2019-02-15 12:48:07)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Early morning hours MVA after a night of heavy drinking.


What about your worst moments? I see what you did there *
by Tonybullets  (2019-02-11 14:43:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


You sound fun *
by Patrick Bateman  (2019-02-11 14:37:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


He could have been heading to class
by irishrock  (2019-02-11 14:36:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

One summer, I had to drive 65 miles to work and leave at 4:45 am. One time I got pulled over at 5:00 am and the cop comes up to my car and asks what the hell I was doing out so late. I told him I was heading to work. I think the guy did me a solid because he issued me a ticket but didn't fill in the mph part when I was going 67 in a 55. I think he likely knew I didn't deserve the ticket


The bars didn't even close until 3 if I recall correctly.
by notredomer2005  (2019-02-11 14:32:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

(with the exception of Club 23, which I don't think ever really closed). Throw in some Borracho Burrito afterward and you got 4:30. C'mon man!


never out till dawn?
by SEE  (2019-02-11 14:23:21)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Really?


Well, the years may have dulled my memory.........but
by HolyCrossHog  (2019-02-11 19:40:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

the cops never caught me!!


40s at 4? *
by DBCooper  (2019-02-11 14:10:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


really?
by jt  (2019-02-11 14:10:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I spent more than a few nights out past that time. Good times


I remember watching a few sunrises with an SMC...
by Rocksteady74  (2019-02-11 19:21:10)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

... student from the roof of the Architecture building to end the evening. (And no, I wasn't even an Architecture major.)


The architecture building?
by Giggity_Giggity  (2019-02-11 19:36:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Was she helping you erect something?


I needed very little help *
by Rocksteady74  (2019-02-11 21:59:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Hell, I spent nights sober out that late on a good night. *
by tdiddy07  (2019-02-11 14:13:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Do 2 to 7 parties at off campus houses still exist? *
by Father Nieuwland  (2019-02-11 14:45:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


They are just called postgames now
by crazychester  (2019-02-11 17:17:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

and they go nowhere near 7.

As the one who was on the other end of the checkbook this time around, I'm ok with that


Hotel Lobby *
by HTownND  (2019-02-12 12:07:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


That was booking time, not arrest, according to OFD.
by tdiddy07  (2019-02-11 14:05:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Another site said arrested at that time but I'm guessing it is wrong and reporting the booking time and not understanding the difference. The actual arrest could've been like an hour before booking time depending on what was going on.

And if NDSP arrested him, he may not have been on the streets. He could've been walking back from Eddy Commons for all we know. Or driving back to the parking lot.


I believe you. *
by Bruno95  (2019-02-11 14:03:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


And I thought you planned, wrote, and edited your genius
by DakotaDomer  (2019-02-11 15:00:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I hope the kids at home learn that no matter how hard you try Bruno only needs 10 seconds to win the day.


[polite but sustained applause] *
by Cash  (2019-02-11 14:56:53)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Winner. *
by KeoughCharles05  (2019-02-11 14:24:48)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Heh
by mocopdx  (2019-02-11 14:18:58)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

This is one of my favorite lines in NDN history.


As Mike Frank says, numbers are never a problem in the end *
by SEE  (2019-02-11 12:15:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


So the sorting hat wasn't just made up by J.K. Rowling? *
by G.K.Chesterton  (2019-02-11 13:00:54)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Kelly's recruiting is worse than I thought.
by NDMike2001  (2019-02-11 11:46:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It's one thing when our 3* pocket passer gets run down by local police and a cab driver. It's another when a former 4* WR gets hauled in by a campus cop despite trying to resist the arrest. I haven't seen the report, but I'm sure it's 100% accurate.


Don’t judge too harshly. IIRC The Shark was run down by
by The Holtz Room  (2019-02-12 00:25:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Valpo cops.

That turned out fine.


Good point. Another 100% accurate story.
by NDMike2001  (2019-02-12 05:21:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I have no doubt a Valpo super cop chased that schmuck down from behind. He's just a pitcher anyway.


No one's sure of anything. *
by Yandrosxx  (2019-02-11 12:43:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Yeah, because everyone who has ever been arrested for a crim
by tf86  (2019-02-11 12:38:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Is automatically guilty of that crime, or the police wouldn't have wasted their time. Right?


Probability not 100% (battery)...
by bleedsgreen04  (2019-02-11 12:34:18)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I’m guessing the battery charge is some trumped up bullshit they tacked on due to incidental kicking while he was trying to get away, similar to the BS charge they tried to put on Tom Rees a few years back.


Two charges and no event?
by goldhelmethead  (2019-02-11 13:03:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Sounds like bullshit to me.


The reported definition says that fleeing an order to stop
by tdiddy07  (2019-02-11 13:37:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

is an offense. It is possible to have a lawful order to stop based on probable cause where it turned out the guy did nothing wrong.

But it certainly should be a red flag if no further charge was made. For instance, no public intox or underage consumption or possession (if he hasn't turned 21 yet as a junior) charges were made. I also don't know what the public intox rules are if you're on ND's campus.

But you can't just order someone to stop for no good reason or because they look vaguely suspicious. You're welcome to try to confront them and ask questions, but they have no obligation to volunteer their answers or to stop and listen. And the refusal to volunteer answers or to stop and listen is not probable cause for any crime that could warrant a lawful order to stop.


I trust SB police as much as I trust Weis to avoid donuts *
by dinger9927  (2019-02-11 11:34:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


In the absence of proof to the contrary
by tf86  (2019-02-11 12:34:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I am inclined to take the word of a Notre Dame student over the word of any police officer. I have seen far, FAR too much lying on the part of police officers to give their word any credibility whatsoever at face value.

Strictly mho, and I realize that I'm probably in the minority here.


I think there's a large number of people here
by KeoughCharles05  (2019-02-11 12:36:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

who are not going to take SBPD or NDSP's official statements at face value. Especially on spurious charges like "resisting arrest" without an underlying offense.


The difference for me is that
by tf86  (2019-02-11 12:43:10)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

In my case, it applies to police across the board. Of course, the standard of proof is supposed to be proof of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, even if that doesn't always happen in the real world.


Are you saying all police everywhere? Just for clarity.
by 2ndstreeter  (2019-02-11 13:12:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Not looking to debate, just don’t want to assume.


Based on my personal experience
by tf86  (2019-02-15 12:34:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I would look for corroboration before I'd be inclined to believe anything a police officer says.

And just so that we're clear, I did not say I would not believe anything a police officer said, ever. But I would require corroboration first.


It was the Notre Dame police. *
by BigNDfan  (2019-02-11 11:40:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I'm sure the facts will sort this out. But, if its true he
by 84david  (2019-02-12 11:57:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

punched a woman, he is done as a FB player, at ND or anywhere.


So this happened at a mall? *
by BIGSKYND  (2019-02-12 10:25:21)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Was he arrested for an underlying offense or just
by Mike Regan  (2019-02-11 11:45:21)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

resisting and battery on a LEO? If that is the case, it seems suspicious.


Click through
by ndtnguy  (2019-02-12 11:13:33)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The ISD article links to an NDInsider piece (although the ISD text says it's a Tribue article) that describes the incident in detail: he passed out in the back of an Uber, campus police responded to a call about it and tried to help him to his dorm, he bolted, it turned into a scuffle, and he punched the cops.


Javon *
by VT2ND  (2019-02-11 11:32:42)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


My phone auto-corrected to Jacob. Thanks! *
by ryND  (2019-02-11 11:34:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post