Maybe Kelly has done enough that ND can attract a championship level coach.

I hate these "victory" laps he and Jack keep taking.

See, Fr. John was right. And of course Sally, who knows much more than all of us.

10 more years - although I question whether we're all worthy enough.

"Yeah, I'm in it to win a national championship for Notre Dame, but what really drives me is the relationships with the players."

I believe that Saban wanting to win is his first, second, and third priority and his "relationship" with his players is fourth or lower

Top 10
Top 25

I've seen people use "Top 11" or "Top 20" or some other arbitrary metric to make Kelly look better or worse.

I can only imagine the Pavlovian fanboy reaction and retweets now.

Fucking embarrassing. Brian Kelly has coached 0 undefeated seasons. Zero, none, nada. You can’t be proud of something you didn’t fucking do.

It's one thing to tout Kelly for his two undefeated seasons and, in some bizarre way, even his turnaround from his self imposed failure of a 4-8 season, but to push it to the point of his inclusion in the grouping of Rockne-Leahy-Parseghian-Holtz is blatant disrespect and BS.

I want to throw up and take a shower under scalding water to wash away the disgust from reading this garbage.

Who are these people? Why are they anywhere near this program?

He'd only need to do a couple things:

1) Completely relinquish control of the offense to a top-flight offensive coordinator that prioritizes a physical style of play

2) Be more ambitious in recruiting 5 star talent (which might also necessitate hiring better recruiters underneath him)

The problem is, he's unlikely to ever consider either one, since recruiting RKGs (i.e. low-hanging fruit) and running his "it-was-cutting-edge-in-1995-offense" are so central to his contrived identity as a coach.

And both would likely require him to sacrifice political capital to convince the University to spend more on his assistant coaches, which seems antithetical to his survivalist mentality.

Maybe start recruiting them harder Brian.

and then he'll be in business.

That much you can write in stone.

lose another game at Notre Dame" mindset. This was very predictable, they will pay lip service to the idea that we need to win a championship but he doesn't really hide the fact that he is quite satisfied with himself. This is a Notre Dame coach that hasn't won a major bowl game or a playoff game through nine years, who got drubbed by 27 points in the last game he coached, who is giving an interview patting himself on the back and stating how he'll be content with his legacy after five more seasons without a championship. Sickening.

Not a conversation I've ever had. Who is having this discussion?

Nobody. Even the biggest Brian Kelly fans can't possibly be having that conversation.

"Why can't we have another Rockne, Leahy, Ara, or Holtz? I'd even take a Devine. But no. FU Brian Kelly...."

Looking at the mural of ND coaches including Rockne, Leahy, Parseghian, Holtz, and Kelly. Moff: Who doesn’t belong and why? Me: Kelly. End of conversation

No it’s not.

And we do need to get so much better at running back, especially looking at our 2019 depth chart. Hard to argue with that. At least he recognizes it.

I would say....no

And say what you will about ND's standards. At least it's an ethos.

want to stay. just the sort of thing other coaches like to use on the recruiting trail.

the length of contracts of all these coaches, even Saban since he works for a State school where FIOA allows those interested to know the details of his contract.

I think it's better for these guys to be obtuse up until the end. As you say at some point coaches will use that against you on the recruiting trail and tell kids if you go there you won't play for the HC who recruited you.

It's why, at least in the past, you'd see assistants staying through NLOI signing day then leave programs (voluntarily or otherwise) after that so that kids wouldn't back out of signing because they weren't there to coach them.

as Coach in Waiting.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I know it's coming. I see that train rolling down the tracks.

"That's just 3 seasons of 8 wins." Dare to dream!!!

Thamel could have said "or 2 seasons of 12 wins..." but I guess that's just not in the stars. Settle for mediocrity, it's easier. Like recruiting.

The article claims Kelly's "81-34" record "doesn’t factor in the 21 victories redacted by the NCAA for impermissible academic help."

The only way to get to 81 is to count the 21 vacated wins. Just pretend that it didn't happen. So, yes, the cited record does factor in the 21 vacated victories.

And the only way to get to 34 is not to count one of the losses, presumably the loss in the 2012 BCS championship game (we can't mention participation, I think, but the loss shouldn't be removed from our totals).

Brian Kelly is 60-35. He's nowhere near Notre Dame's great coaches by any measure, except perhaps tenure. And he shouldn't be close in that respect either, but our esteemed leaders are willing to overlook anything and everything for our guy Bri.

What he means is that the record doesn't account for the fact that 21 of the wins are vacated.

Or are you asking a rhetorical question as the ND fan base? If by chance you were asking me this personally, I’d say this wasn’t my statement, that’s why it’s in quotes. It was Pete Thamel’s statement in his article.

If you’re asking me this as an ND fan, I’d say no true ND is blatantly ignoring the vacated wins. There are no less than a dozen posts monthly that state such.

Which was, indirectly, pretty indicting. Or should be, at least.

At least one of two reasons (if not both) why the job destroyed Lou/Leahy/Ara but not BK.

1) Lowered expectations/lower performance standards which results in less pressure/stress.

2) He doesn’t work as hard.

because they aren't failures and because they are the players' and the alumni's fault.

make sure he won't go two consecutive years without a title while Kelly is giving an interview reminding people that Holtz and Ara never had two perfect regular seasons at ND.

And he won the national championship both times.

Kelly is at 0 in both of those categories. And he is likely to remain there forever.

Compare winning percentage, major bowl victories, etc. Kelly is nowhere near the all-time greats. Anyone with two or more brain cells knows this fact.

And why is Kelly claiming two undefeated regular seasons anyway? Aren't we not supposed to reference 2012 and all the wins that we volunteered, and then were forced, to vacate?

It is my new mission to figure out his rider handle...

Jack Swarbrick can fist himself with a rusty gauntlet.

run at ND than our legendary coaches. Yes let's celebrate how our Head Coach has found peace in his job as he's embraced the Iowa level expectations the AD has set for him.