I don't associate Rockne's success and contributions to the

program with the number 105. Actually when I think about 105 it's more to lament that he got stuck on it because of the crash. Clearly if someone, especially someone like Kelly, were to overtake that record no one respectable would equate that with him overtaking Rockne on the Mount Rushmore. Even with Holtz if he had gotten to 106 I don't think many people would have started referring to him as the best coach in program history and if they did Holtz would have been the first to shoot them down.

The Nicklaus 18 record is defining, I think it's pretty close to universally accepted that with everything else on his resume if Tiger were to get to 19 he overtakes Nicklaus so a Nicklaus fan has much more motivation to pull against that happening.