In reply to: Most of those coaches at Notre Dame... posted by revressbo
BK is also the whole of his record, including no wins in 2012.
Only 2012 survived. But not the sanction that vacated those wins.
Washington is a good program. It’s not Notre Dame. Willingham went 21-15 at ND. He went 11-37 at Washington. Petersen won 10 games each of the previous three years. I have no doubt he’d consistently (doesn’t mean “always”) win 10+ at ND.
Orgeron does seem changed, so hard to tell. He really seems to need great coordinators. He’s also consistently played really tough schedules, though. I’m inclined to agree with you, though, on him. Regardless, I said “most”, not “all” and I stand by that.
Second, I didn’t say those coaches would consistently win ten games at ND. Read the posted words. I carefully chose them, so carefully read them. I said those coaches would win ten games “against this schedule”, with comparable talent to the current ND roster.
I then said they’re not all better than Kelly.
The point is that there’s nothing special or distinct about this record. That should be a baseline, and instead of people being happy with it, they should seek to build from there. Sure, you might catch a bad break here or there and not hit ten. But it shouldn’t happen often. 36 losses in ten years is not the mark of any program I’d call elite.
"Coaches who would never, ever go worse than 7-5 at ND with the 2016 roster and schedule."
The list would be 3x as large as the OP's list.