In reply to: I wonder what Saucy is lobbying for behind the scenes posted by ACross
And look ahead to a healthy fall 2021. Preserving all scholarships, without exception, no bullshit Robby Bensoning.
We can deal with the selling of likeness stuff in the not to distant fuure, during the pause. That's a pretty easy call. I don't think the time is ripe or urgent to deal with revenue sharing.
play games with this and try to use it as leverage.
as well?
If not, why not?
Students in dorms share hallways, bathrooms, stairwells.
contact, 1 game a week 5 practice days a week.
such as breathable masks/face guards/etc. that could have been used and minimized contact during practices and contact with coaches, I would think that we would have a leg to stand on here as it relates to playing.
As it is now, the argument seems to be "their risk of dying is low; let them play!" and I don't find that compelling. We're a great country when we put our heads together and figure stuff out. When we take the "don't tread on me/take my stuff/walk on my lawn" stance, we're obstinate as hell and get little done.
between large groups of people from different states. Much easier to contain on a confined campus than when you start opening things up to an entire region of the country.
bubble than ND is. I think several ACC schools even have athletic dorms.
If you want fans to stay away from players, that’s very reasonable.
ND players are more at risk by going to class than they are by playing.
Have you seen the setups they have in the classrooms? They're spacing students out.
I also don't think it's reasonable to assume that the ACC players aren't going to be socializing off-campus, and with teams like Miami there is the possibility of significantly more exposure than would be expected for the ND student body given their location.
since June 30. ACC teams have done about the same.
11000 kids from all over the country just arrived on campus. That’s a bigger risk than 100.
That said, ND has been very careful on this return to campus. 12000 tests, 33 came back positive and those people stayed home.
They may have athlete's dorms, but they aren't going to be segregated from the student population the way you are implying.
by making the housing appear the same as the non-athlete dorms. For Clemson:
"Renovating the housing for football players can be tricky because of NCAA rules prohibiting athletics dorms. But Clemson’s administration quickly maneuvered through all the red tape, working in concert with the university’s department of housing to make upgrades to Lightsey Bridge Apartments that benefit not just football players, and not just athletes in general, but also regular students."
take chances, and I don’t think Miami or FSU were ever that rigorous about players attending class.
Clemson requires at least the freshman to stay on campus. And all it takes is a few players attending class at FSU to open the potential exposure up from 11,000 ND students to 32,000 FSU students (I'm not suggesting going to class actually causes direct exposure to that many students, but in terms of the linking between individuals if you look at each college as a self-contained bubble, which they aren't but for the sake of argument can be used as an estimate for amount of comparable exposure). You multiple that by 10-12 games, the links for potential spread become significantly larger. And that doesn't even include my point above about students at places like Miami being exposed to the Miami population versus ND students being exposed to the significantly smaller South Bend population that (currently) has fewer cases.
that you shouldn't play football. But not unless/until then. It's manifestly inconsistent.
continue to learn more about the virus, and if we have to postpone again so be it.
Setting a restart for practice of October should give schools enough time to see what is going on once kids are back on campus, etc. You could plan on the season restarting in Nov with games through Dec and then possibly post season in Jan/Feb. Failing that, plan on restarting practice in Jan with games in Feb and March, April post season, and then restart fall camp next Oct.
And plan for a late September/early October kickoff with games every 2 weeks..
I tend to agree that postponing the season for now may be the best option. We should have a much better idea in a month of how things are going to go with respect to the virus on college campuses once students are back. If it is the sh*tshow many suspect it will be, the season may need to be canceled at that point. If numbers improve and college campuses prove able to avoid/handle outbreaks, then the season can move forward in late September or October.
Focus right now on getting kids back to school and adjusted to all the new rules. Maybe it will go better than expected and sports can resume.
Is worth it. And without a vaccine or major advances in therapies, I think the operative facts are known, so a pause, really doesn't make sense to me.
a condensed season in the spring could actually be a boon for college football if the NFL plays in the fall and our numbers are at a point where we can allow fans in stadiums.
Here in CO, for instance, our numbers are actually down pretty far since July and if it keeps moving in that direction things would be looking positive for spring competition, or even late winter. The problem is the "don't tread on me" morons who seem to be substantial in certain areas of the country and who will likely not comply in any meaningful sense with any sort of mask mandate that might help keep numbers down.
In all seriousness, I am not a medical professional and I don't know what the science would tell us about when we can safely play. Perhaps you are right and the operative facts are known. I honestly don't know.
Basketball normally starts first week in November.
Are we just going to keep kicking the can down the road until someone has a true plan?
no non-conference games, conference season starting January, 2021. Some chance of vaccine by then.
basketball is even riskier than football. Again, very hard to "bubble" college athletes like the NBA is doing.
with that said, however, the hope would need to be that we make some progress and get the numbers down.