The falsest of false equivalencies

The significant difference of course is the fact these "minor league"athletes bring millions of dollars in revenues to the school. Compare the 85 scholarship football players and the revenue the football program generates and find me 85 undergrads on campus who generate a comparable amount of revenue through research grants or any sort of revenue for the University. Hell I would guess the top 85 undergrads dont generate the same revenue as the 12 players on the women's basketball team.

How many professors get paid what the coaches get paid?

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Research money at the top schools dwarfs sports money. - dfw 2023-03-24 15:15:15
- John’s Hopkins pulls in more than our endowment returns - airborneirish 2023-03-24 15:36:54
  - hopefully they redistribute that money properly - jt 2023-03-24 16:42:15
  - Students pull in that money or professors? * - wpkirish 2023-03-24 16:03:59
    - hopefully those professors who do pull in that money - jt 2023-03-24 16:44:31
- Quesiton on Academic v. Athletic Scholarships - wpkirish 2023-03-24 15:31:32
  - Same logic. Nd makes money because of the brand - airborneirish 2023-03-24 15:38:27
    - But would you support requiring academic scholarship - wpkirish 2023-03-24 18:06:40
      - Just give scholarships based on need only. - doolinbanjos 2023-03-25 14:52:06
    - If it is the brand why do we care what recruits sign to play - wpkirish 2023-03-24 16:15:20
      - the money obviously comes from both - jt 2023-03-25 11:07:40
        Have you put your marker down? - squid 2023-03-26 14:31:13
        $699,832 of expense per ND football scholarship player - MrE 2023-03-26 15:43:08
        Having seen these sorts of things before (not ND) - jt 2023-03-26 22:07:20
        What is misleading about including coaching expenses? - squid 2023-03-27 03:47:17
        the 85k is not accurate when referring to "cost" to ND - jt 2023-03-27 11:53:27
        Ridiculous. - squid 2023-03-27 12:47:09
        85k is full freight tuition - jt 2023-03-27 12:56:16
        FWIW, there's a fair amount of research on the cost of - FL_Irish 2023-03-27 15:10:45
        OK .. I'll bite. What is the annual cost of an ND education? * - NDFanSince81 2023-03-27 14:43:24
        Tuition is the only direct cost spent on players. Got it. * - squid 2023-03-27 13:13:13
        It’s taking everything, and then dividing by 85 - MrE 2023-03-26 22:40:31
        any way you slice it - jt 2023-03-27 01:02:07
        yes Profit per football player = $908,267 * - MrE 2023-03-27 09:57:23
        And when someone complains tutition is too high they say - wpkirish 2023-03-25 12:56:15
85 x 85000 isn’t chump change * - airborneirish 2023-03-24 13:15:59
- I am not saying it is and as the parent of a HS JR I would - wpkirish 2023-03-24 13:36:54
  - You’re not doing the math right. At all - airborneirish 2023-03-24 14:57:04
    - Seems to me everyone is coming at it from the ass end - gregmorrissey 2023-03-24 19:47:17
    - it costs Notre Dame 85,000 each for 85 scholarship athletes? - jt 2023-03-24 16:32:47
    - The teams bring in that revenue. - wpkirish 2023-03-24 15:18:39
      - Spoiler. I think they are barely worth the scholarship at - airborneirish 2023-03-24 15:30:37
        they are worth whatever the market will bear - jt 2023-03-24 16:35:16
        Then let's open up the market - KeoughCharles05 2023-03-25 09:23:47
        It’s not going to be any different than the NFL. - smithwick 2023-03-25 13:29:44
        I’d pay Morrison $1.5M per year - MrE 2023-03-25 14:14:20
        Again, telling other people what to do - gregmorrissey 2023-03-25 11:10:57
        It's to not let them collude in ways that would be illegal - KeoughCharles05 2023-03-25 21:50:45
        Just to clarify, I'm not advocating forced pay - gregmorrissey 2023-03-27 12:19:37
        If they are employees... - KeoughCharles05 2023-03-28 12:38:38
        Freedom to contract != forced pay - gregmorrissey 2023-03-28 15:00:07
        ND's player payroll is ~$2.125M per year. - MrE 2023-03-28 15:09:11
        So it would seem they aren't being forced at all - gregmorrissey 2023-03-28 16:03:54
        BTW, you'd like Wetzel/Forde podcast from yesterday. - MrE 2023-03-28 18:24:01
        Thanks. I agreed with the guy against the nanny state - gregmorrissey 2023-03-29 09:55:42
        Regarding "running it wide open for 5 or so years" - MrE 2023-03-29 10:16:14
        Better one yesterday (1-hr) - Andy Staples podcast with - MrE 2023-03-29 10:07:34
        Swarbrick encourages us to give more to the cause, and - MrE 2023-03-28 17:20:04
        every current player (and recruits) should have agents - MrE 2023-03-27 12:53:45
        Change is messy. It would eventually find order - gregmorrissey 2023-03-27 13:28:46
        I'm good w/ that-as long as CFB players can extract every $ - MrE 2023-03-27 13:31:47
        it's a collectively bargained agreement - jt 2023-03-26 01:04:04
        In the early 90s, - smithwick 2023-03-24 16:12:59
        the cost of a scholarship was not 20k - jt 2023-03-24 16:37:23
        Said better, the value of compensation directly - smithwick 2023-03-24 16:59:44
        agree - jt 2023-03-24 17:07:36
      - Schools are bidding on other schools' players already. - MrE 2023-03-24 15:29:00
        85000 x 85 != $5 million - airborneirish 2023-03-24 15:35:15
        "subsidizing women's sports" - jt 2023-03-24 16:40:22
        Title IX forces that does it not? * - OITLinebacker 2023-03-25 09:06:07
        once again, that's a University problem - jt 2023-03-25 11:10:04
        Eh, sane businesses wouldn't have D&A be 15% of revenue - NavyJoe 2023-03-24 16:39:32
        And spend that way because they know they dont need to pay - wpkirish 2023-03-24 16:48:11
        Yes, obviously - NavyJoe 2023-03-24 16:56:53
        I used $8M for ND FB scholarships - MrE 2023-03-24 15:38:01
      - Now add in all the losses from the women’s teams - airborneirish 2023-03-24 15:28:15
        Two different issues - wpkirish 2023-03-24 15:42:08
        strangely enough, whenever you or I or anyone else asks - jt 2023-03-25 14:14:34