Peeke signs with CBJ (link)
by Boston Domer (2019-04-01 11:21:45)

Has coming out a year early really helped them transition...
by thethinman  (2019-04-01 23:44:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

to the NHL?


If by "a year early" you mean "after three years"...
by Mr Wednesday  (2019-04-02 00:17:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I think it has very little to do with helping to transition and very much to do with the teams wanting to sign them when they're still negotiating exclusively instead of competing with everyone else.


Yep - look at Vesey and Fox ...
by BIGSKYND  (2019-04-02 09:18:05)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Harvard got 4th years because they wanted to get out of their draft destinations.


Way to go Andrew, you earned it *
by DakotaDomer  (2019-04-01 13:07:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Aye! *
by Porpoiseboy  (2019-04-01 13:17:34)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Dang.
by wearendhockey  (2019-04-01 11:32:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Congrats to him though, and good luck.

One thing that helps is I think the program now is expecting to lose players after their third year when they are 1st or 2nd round picks, and are recruiting around it, and working with commits around it. Which kids are coming in as normal age freshmen, which are spending an extra year in the USHL, etc?

We worried where we'd be after Cal and Anders left in 2017. We worried when Oglevie and Gilbert left after their junior seasons. We worried what it would mean when Hinostroza took his point per game average away from a team that was no better than mediocre. In all those cases we were either better than the year before or at the very least still quite successful. We'll be all right, although I'm not quite ready to make the bold prediction I made after last year's loss in the title game!


It's what I said below - CBJ D aren't deep ...
by BIGSKYND  (2019-04-01 12:04:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

and my guess is that he might even earn himself a second pairing spot with a really good camp. Better after three than after one, as we know.


Indeed.
by Naughman  (2019-04-01 17:15:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Other than Seth Jones, the depth chart is filled with guys who have potential but aren't quite living up to it and grinders who are in some degree of placeholding. Plenty of opportunity here for a steady player, particularly given the man in charge.


You do have the guy I knew here as ...
by BIGSKYND  (2019-04-01 17:29:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

the Pigeon Roost. Great dressing room guy and he can keep the cheap shot artists in check but he's at his absolute peak as a 3rd pairing guy.


Hah Mr. McQuaid I presume *
by Naughman  (2019-04-01 18:06:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Give the man a round of applause ...
by BIGSKYND  (2019-04-01 18:29:55)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I may be faster than he is - in Goalie skates.


Keeping a talented second-round pick for three years
by Boston Domer  (2019-04-01 11:59:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

after he was drafted is definitely in line with my expectations. Peeke had one season in the USHL, but did not play in the league past his high school graduation/draft year. A fourth year would have been a nice, but unexpected bonus. I'm not sure what his academic status is, but players like Ian Cole have gone pro and graduated after just three seasons.

Regarding your point of recruiting around it, I would anticipate Jackson knew this was a strong possibility. Departures like Tinordi leaving without getting on campus and Palmieri darting in the middle of the summer can put the program in a bind with regards to recruiting. This definitely falls into a different category.

Likewise, how lucky is UMass, having Makar (4th overall pick) give them two full seasons after he was drafted?


Isn’t Morrison a 2nd round pick as well? Will he go early? I
by zahm82  (2019-04-02 01:03:42)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

don’t think we will be recruiting any more 2nd round talent anymore listening to Jackson and the importance he places on guys staying 3 or 4 years.


The Avs are currently at 48 contracts, so two to spare.
by ugoirish  (2019-04-02 17:59:49)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

One of them is obviously for Makar who will likely sign within hours of UMass' last game, particularly if they make the playoffs. In comments Sunday Jared Bednar made it pretty clear he would use him if he had the chance. That would mean there's one left for Morrison. On one hand I don't see them pressuring him to sign because they have a bunch of young gritty two-way forwards in their AHL/NHL system right now - AJ Greer, JT Compher, Vadislav Kamenev, Matt Nieto, Matt Calvert, Shane Bowers etc. On the other hand they got burned with Will Butcher playing all four years and going UFA. As it usually is it'll be Morrison's decision, will be interesting what he decides to do.


I don't think Jackson said that ....
by BIGSKYND  (2019-04-02 09:16:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

he mentioned NTDP guys who are "under the radar". The implication is that high-mid first rounders are off the list. Going further than that is dumb and he knows it. Both Peeke and Morrison have been there three years - same as Lee. So I'm not sure what point you're making here.


I'm extrapolating what Jackson said about the NTDP, but look
by zahm82  (2019-04-02 11:27:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

at who we are recruiting. Outside of Morrison and Peeke at round 2, the majority of our draft picks are 5-7 rounders with Pivonka being a 4th. There are currently 31 1st and 2nd rounders playing D1 hockey with BU having 5 players and that model hasn't worked out for them


The vast majority of kids who leave after one ..
by BIGSKYND  (2019-04-02 13:50:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

are first rounders and the moment they come in everybody figures one year, two at the absolute max. That's true of the ones who have been stiffing BC and BU the last few years. Not a surprise in the bunch. We may not land 2-rounders but I can't see Jackson not going after a kid we can land at that level (which you don't know until they get drafted anyway). As I said, Peeke lasted three and Morrison has, as well.


I'm happy with elite talent staying 3 years.... *
by Wolfetone  (2019-04-03 07:58:08)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I read it the same way
by Boston Domer  (2019-04-02 09:58:18)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I think he especially means one-and-dones or players who never make it to college hockey


Yeah - as I pointed out, both Peeke and ...
by BIGSKYND  (2019-04-02 11:22:56)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Morrison have done three. Not seeing the connection involving late round 1 - Round 2 guys.


You need some elite talent as well... *
by Wolfetone  (2019-04-02 08:52:59)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


How much is a contract Peeke signed generally worth? *
by Wolfetone  (2019-04-01 13:22:59)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Meant to add that includes signing bonus ...
by BIGSKYND  (2019-04-01 13:40:27)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

seems unlikely he gets any meaningful "performance bonuses", which is how the McDaves and the Eichels can go above the ceiling.


Entry level max is $925K, IIRC ...
by BIGSKYND  (2019-04-01 13:33:46)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

the other issue is length based on age. I think Peeke might be 2 years. There's also a lot of jockeying to "burn" the first year by getting in an NHL game in April.


Thx... *
by Wolfetone  (2019-04-01 13:57:56)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


The only sure way is have a guy like Fox ...
by BIGSKYND  (2019-04-01 12:08:13)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

who doesn't like where he ended up in the draft. But that's a complete crap shoot, especially since Fox may have decided that only because Carolina added Hamilton to their RH shots on the blue line.