With two big game players returning for their senior seasons
by Wearendhockey (2019-04-19 17:26:09)

could next year be the one that finally ends with winning the last game of the college hockey season?

Throw your empties at me if you must, but over the last few years I have felt my interest in the regular season wane a bit. It might be because all of the people I used to attend games with now no longer go (many reasons why). It could be because I no longer live in the vicinity of Notre Dame, having moved to suburban Cleveland just prior to the beginning of the 2015-2016 season. It might be because over the course of 44 seasons of following this program I have seen just about everything that can happen over the course of a season happen. Except for one thing.

Back in the early days of my fandom, the NCAA tournament was an unknown. A pipe dream that a much younger me knew little about or perhaps even understood exactly what it meant. In 1977 we came close, but somehow managed to lose a total-goals playoff series on home ice after building a 6-1 lead over Minnesota over the course of the first 60 minutes and the first few minutes the next night. We came close again in 1982, but a 4th place finish in the CCHA gave the NCAA good reason to take regular season winner Bowling Green, despite our 2-1 record against them, including the CCHA semi final, played -- for the first time -- in Detroit's Joe Louis Arena. We came close again in 1999, finishing as the 13th team in a year 12 teams made it.

But now, NCAA bids are almost a given. Jeff Jackson has completed 14 seasons here, and all but 4 have ended in either an NCAA regional, or a Frozen Four. We've pulled off big upsets, suffered some, played more overtime games than is healthy to watch and came agonizingly close to winning titles a couple of times. Tod Anderson and Derek Shepard can still go to Hell. And the run of overtime games and last minute wins in 2018 and 2019 are not to be believed, had I not witnessed them.

All of that makes me anxious to get regular seasons over with and wait for something truly new to happen.


No qualms at all with your post..,
by DavidAddison  (2019-04-21 21:48:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But I’m fortunate to attend a few games in Compton every season and really enjoy it. Inexpensive fun watching a talented team in a great facility and usually very good hockey environment. The home conference playoff game vs PSU was a new level.

As I’ve posted here several times, I also so much more enjoy the conference games now that we play Big 10 teams. Literally a week after a hockey East game I’d have trouble remembering who we even played. Had nothing to do with the quality of the hockey, but man was that roster of opponents uninspiring.


For the vast majority of our fanbase the current conference
by wearendhockey  (2019-04-22 12:28:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

opponents are far more appealing than those in Hockey East. I think the ones who most appreciated the schedule from 2013-2017 were our friends who were actually located in the northeast and having Notre Dame a member of Hockey East allowed them a number of opportunities to see games in person each year. But for most of our fans, New Hampshire, Vermont, or even teams with some hockey history like Maine and Boston University just didn't move the needle enough.

As much as I hate the Big Ten and as loathsome as a couple of the teams in the hockey conference are, I think playing them as conference mates is clearly the best fit for Notre Dame, for all sorts of reasons.


Agree fully with this. I'm not sure if the numbers
by OCND  (2019-04-23 16:05:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

support it, but it seemed like the atmosphere was much better this season in particular.


The numbers clearly support it.
by Wearendhockey  (2019-04-24 13:59:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

During the first season of Big Ten play the average attendance was 4604. The just completed season attendance averaged a fire marshal alarming 5368. The average over the last two seasons is 4995. During the final season of Hockey East play interest in the opponents clearly appeared to be waning as the average attendance fell to just 4151 and over the four years in HE the average attendance was 4538.


Thanks for that. Glad to know it wasnt
by OCND  (2019-04-24 14:21:48)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

my misinterpretation. B11 and I go to every game on cheap season tickets, moving down closer to the ice after we survey the scene for empties.

This season, it was much, much harder to do.


I think that's hockey now
by Hunt  (2019-04-20 15:54:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

You see that in the NHL playoffs this year, and every year, lately.

The regular season just doesn't matter.

The best teams in both conferences went down quickly in round 1. The other two division winners are in fights for their lives. The third seed is up 3-2 on the sexond seed in three of the four series. In the NCAA, the #1 seed went down in round 1...again.

I jokingly call the first day of the NHL playoffs "opening day." The regular season is fun because I love good hockey, but meaningful hockey doesn't start until the playoffs.

I'm with you 100%.


The playoffs in the NHL are the only NHL hockey I watch
by wearendhockey  (2019-04-21 09:41:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

anymore. With more than half your teams in the postseason, the regular season becomes a 6 month long seeding process, at best. When NHL teams are playing the third road game of a 3 game trip, the level of compete is intentionally toned down. The last time I went to an NHL game I watched the Islanders play the Bluejackets on such an occasion. They got beat 7-0 and did not skate a single shift at better than 75% effort.

At least NCAA hockey invites a reasonable number of teams to the postseason party. Additionally, the loser point has not crept into the game, although I see that at some time in the future in the college game too.





Not I but I understand why other people do that ...
by BIGSKYND  (2019-04-22 18:04:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I'm hooked enough on the game that I have to do my share of regular season - plus that's how I get playoff access. And a lot of what you see reg season depends on the existence of a rivalry, need to get into playoff position, etc. Just for example the Bruins and the Bolts played a great game this past March. I don't know when you went to that Isles game but that might have been a predictable "maintenance night".


February of 2017.
by wearendhockey  (2019-04-22 20:42:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It was clearly a "maintenance night." But I bought the ticket to see the Isles play when they were going to be in Ohio on a day I could go, not looking at the surrounding schedule. But I know that's what you get in the NHL, and in the NBA as well, so buyer beware. I do believe that if the schedule was 72 games long and only 12 teams made the playoffs, the regular season would be far more entertaining and teams could afford to take no games off.


Football has an advantage....
by BIGSKYND  (2019-04-23 11:30:21)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

when you play only 16 or 12, every game matters. Baseball limits who gets in at the end but there's an awful lot of dog food on the table out of 162 games for anybody. During the NHL season I see my share of turkeys but I also see some damn good games every year. The one you picked was probably labeled 3 months in advance - in addition to the slot, Isles-CBJ doesn't wake up the echoes.


Right now we have 5 FR coming in - correct? *
by BIGSKYND  (2019-04-20 14:51:45)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


No empties from me!
by Porpoiseboy  (2019-04-19 18:37:16)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Returning an experienced goalie with Cale's quality is reason enough for me to believe, let alone every other reason. We've had great results with JJ having great goalies. Never say never!

I gave my love Don Cherry!!!