Ivy League Shelves Sports Until At Least January
by dillon77 (2020-07-08 18:23:35)
Edited on 2020-07-08 18:25:55

Ivy League just announced its decision regarding sports.
If you recall, the Ivy League was among the first to cancel sports on March 10. It will be interesting to see what effect -- if any -- this has on other conferences.

For non-subscribers, I've cut and pasted the entire NY Times article below.

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The Ivy League presidents placed all sports on hold Wednesday until at least January, making it the first Division I conference that will not play football as scheduled in the fall because of the coronavirus pandemic.

As a result, a broad array of sports, from football and men’s basketball to cross country and sailing, have been placed in limbo. Practices could take place in the fall, but conditions would have to improve for sports to be played next year.

As for the possibility of playing football in the spring, Princeton football Coach Bob Surace characterized it thusly: “One word. Hope.”

He added that a vaccine, better therapies and people following health guidelines would be necessary if there were any chance of playing in the spring, but there is also the fear of a second wave of the virus this winter.

Though the caliber of football in the Ivy League, which plays at the Football Championship Subdivision level and does not allow athletic scholarships, is far below that of the best programs in the country, the decision made by the eight presidents could have great influence among university leaders nationwide tasked with deciding when and how sports will return to college campuses.

Hints that the Ivy League was leaning this way became clearer on Monday when three of its schools announced plans for reopening their campuses to only some students in the fall. One of those schools, Harvard, said it would only allow 40 percent of its students — mostly freshmen — back on campus and that all classes would be held remotely. For the spring semester, Harvard said, freshmen would be sent off campus and seniors would be allowed to return for their final semester.

Football coaches had anticipated this decision since the Ivy League announced last week that it would decide on the fate of fall sports on Wednesday — and in the intervening days two coaches said they had been not asked about making contingency plans. Robin Harris, the executive director of the Ivy League, declined an interview request before the decision was announced.

The Ivy League universities, which are buoyed by large endowments and a powerful academic brand, have largely been able to remove money from decisions regarding athletics. For example, the Ivy League became the last Division I league to hold a conference basketball tournament and is the only league that prohibits its football teams from playing in bowl games or a playoff. And as the start of the college football season has crept into August, the Ivy League has steadfastly stuck to a 10-week season ending on the Saturday before Thanksgiving. This year, it was due to begin on Sept. 19.

The Ivy League also did not flinch on March 10, when it became the first conference to cancel its men’s and women’s basketball tournaments, just before the coronavirus began to run rampant in the Northeast.

Almost immediately, the Ivy League was criticized for overreacting, with some of the harshest criticism coming from its own players and coaches. But within two days, the N.C.A.A. tournaments had been canceled, and the N.B.A., the N.H.L. and Major League Baseball’s spring training suspended games.

The Ivy League spokesman Matt Panto said that the conference had not sought a waiver from the N.C.A.A. to move football (or other sports) to the spring, something the official believed would be required. An N.C.A.A. spokeswoman, Stacey Osborn, declined to answer questions about the waiver process.

While pro basketball, soccer and baseball have experienced halting moments in their recent returns with sprinklings of positive tests and hiccups in the testing process, a return of college sports is even more problematic because its players — unlike the professionals — are not paid.

Also, the surge in cases in many pockets of the country over the last month has created more obstacles for the return this fall of college football, which many schools count on for millions of dollars in television, ticket and advertising revenues that fuel athletic departments.

The relatively simple task of bringing football players back to campus for voluntary workouts has in some cases proved so problematic that schools have been forced to abandon them because of Covid-19 outbreaks within their ranks. In the last week, Kansas, Louisiana Tech and Texas-El Paso became the latest to shut down.

Colleges at the lower levels of the N.C.A.A., which is made up of more than 1,100 schools, have already begun to cancel fall sports. Williams, Bowdoin, Swarthmore and Grinnell — all small liberal arts colleges that play at the nonscholarship Division III level — are among those to call off their fall sports seasons.

So, too, have the dozen Division II schools in the California Collegiate Athletic Association, which in May announced that it would cancel fall sports shortly after the Cal State University chancellor said that courses this fall would be held online with few exceptions. But those schools, like Swarthmore, do not play football.




"people following health guidelines..." there's a challenge. *
by Jon  (2020-07-09 18:49:07)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Kate Atkinson captures my feelings: When Will There Be Good
by T-Bone  (2020-07-09 11:00:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

News? Every day I check for reccruiting good news. Becoming less relevant now,


huh? *
by goirish01  (2020-07-09 23:59:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Jackson Brodie reference for the win! *
by NDLAW88  (2020-07-09 19:36:10)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Good get! *
by T-Bone  (2020-07-09 21:28:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


The FBS schools will try their best to have a fall football
by MPG  (2020-07-08 22:51:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

season. Other fall sports will probably be cancelled soon. The last time I checked, und.com had no schedules posted for any fall sports except football. The Ivy League has no football influence, but their presidents tend to set the national agenda for other university presidents, including Power Five presidents in the ACC, Big Ten, and PAC Twelve.

I expect an attempt will be made to go with conference basketball beginning after Christmas. If the dreaded, stronger, second round of the virus appears in the winter, then there will likely be no collegiate sports for the winter and spring. All we can do for now is root for some vaccine and treatment breakthroughs and against the more agressive second round of the virus.


We don't know that we will have a second round
by BIG MAC  (2020-07-09 12:23:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Nor do we know that it will be more aggressive. We could have a second round and it could mutate to a deadlier strain, but it could (more likely, actually)mutate to a milder strain. We could see sub-pandemic levels, or only regional flareups. The virus could , almost mysteriously, disappear. We simply don't know.


Of course nothing is 'knowable' in the sense that we can
by Fighting_Artichoke  (2020-07-09 14:08:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

predict the future. But we can make probabilistic statements based on our understandings of public health, epidemiology, human behavior and political leadership. And the possibility of the virus disappearing on its own or the possibility of there NOT being a second wave are both possibilities with a very low chance of being realized.

I fear for the basketball season. And I fear for the football season. There is a will to make both occur, but there may not be a way to see it through.


Projections are now, and have been, all over the place.
by BIG MAC  (2020-07-10 11:01:42)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I can think of about 5 or 6 different scenarios. I think we should hold out a bit more to see how its going, before making a final decision to cancel.


Correct, that is why is used "If" when I mentioned it. I was
by MPG  (2020-07-09 13:19:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

speculating about the possibility and its effect if it became a reality.