Defense is an issue and the best NWSL US defender is being
by domerduck (2018-07-27 22:53:16)

In reply to: That national team team is so cohesive  posted by spade


left off the US team because of her religious beliefs. She anchors the NC Courage defense which is dominating the NWSL and has already wrapped the Shield. Hinkle should be on the team and starting.




I've heard it as both "religious beliefs" and "homophobe"
by spade  (2018-07-28 03:41:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

That's a hard sell. I hope she wasn't stupid enough to say anything in front of Ellis.

She tweeted out after the Supreme Courts ruling "This world is falling farther and farther away from God... All that can be done by believers is to continue to pray." That was obviously directed at gay marriage and that's not going to sit well with the head coach.


Not just Ellis. Rapinoe is openly gay, and I suspect....
by Rocksteady74  (2018-07-28 12:26:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

... other members of the team are as well.


I believe Ali Krieger and Harris as well, but not open *
by spade  (2018-07-28 13:01:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


The article below shows that angle. Either way the D is weak
by domerduck  (2018-07-28 08:26:25)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

and Hinkle could help them and she is very effective on her NWSL team which includes gays. That article shows with analytics her effectiveness. The problem is the USWT is mucking it up by not being upfront as to why she's not on the team. It's not like she is an abuser (ALA Hope Solo) who the USWT looked the other way for years and she has definitely not broken any laws nor even disparaged anybody. Her one problem was she didn't want to wear the Rainbow colors on her body due to her beliefs but she is willing to wear the US team or Carolina Courage colors with pride.


If she doesn't wear the rainbow uniform, that's her problem
by spade  (2018-07-28 11:28:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Not going to redesign a beautiful design because of her religious beliefs. If she can't wear that and stay quiet then she's a religious beliefs martyr, and that's fine, but I won't blame the USWNT for that.


Yes then why did they let her in camp this time around.
by domerduck  (2018-07-28 15:27:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

She was OK with not being invited to the team, but because they wanted a better team thye invited her. the backlash made them say she didn't make it because of soccer reasons which is BS. Either way the USWNT mucked it up. If they wanted the best team Hinkle would be on it. If they want a PC team than don't invite her. They don't have to have the best team because they probably still can win.


Say you don't want to play for the Redskins, I would agree
by spade  (2018-07-28 15:54:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

If you say playing for that crest and helmet is against your morals because it's racist, that's fine, you have your beliefs and I would support your ideas. But then don't get in a tussy when the Redskins end up cutting you if you do go to their camp.

Problem is there just isn't ANOTHER USWNT she can play for instead. It seems like a Carlos Vela situation, where the player's politics be it moral-politics or soccer-politics has wrote them off the squad for the detriment of the greater squad.

But still this is her own doing and keeping her off the team may make Rapinoe and other pro-gay players including our backup keeper play better and that's the end positive result I'm proud of.

Edit: To your point of inviting then not inviting. They invited her last year and she declined indicating the jersey and what it stands for, namely equality. I see that as an insult to the team. I'm not aware of this invite, then not-invite, then invite. The original decline to play DOES sound very Carlos Vela-ish and that's why he was off the MexiNT for so long. I just can't really get behind this girl. My own morals are probably taking over my soccer IQ.


Let's build out that analogy
by HTownND  (2018-07-30 15:38:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Let's say someone gets traded to the Redskins, and because it's against their beliefs, they choose not to wear the throwback uniform (edit, assume the throwback Redskin is much more offensive than the current, which is a stretch, but go with me here).

They are cut from the team, and it's pretty cut and dry.

The USWNT/Redskins knowing full well that they have a problem with the throwback Redskin logo/Pride Numbers, invites them to camp, which pisses off a ton of people, and they cut the player again.


The problem is why the invitation back, knowing what everyone already knows?

Moreover, she's currently playing with and against players who seem to chalk it up to her opinion.

Like I said, I can track everything, but the invitation to come back to the team only to turn around and cut her is when things get weird. They should have just left her off and let that be the end of it. Inviting her back to camp, knowing what everyone knows, made/makes no sense whatsoever.


Another article on Hinkle's exclusion and Ellis' issues w/D (link)
by domerduck  (2018-07-27 22:55:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post