I edited my original post to include partial scholarships
by NDoggie78 (2020-02-20 11:26:33)
Edited on 2020-02-20 11:28:50

In reply to: Iowa is carrying 36 on roster right now  posted by fontoknow

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The NCAA says the average scholarships per team is 24, but I still don't see a problem using your numbers. I don't know the actual numbers on students and beds available, but we have built 4 new dorms in the last 4 years and are currently using an "extra" dorm to rotate students as their older dorms are remodeled. I believe there has got to be room for 15-20 additional students. It would seem that current enrollment probably fluctuates by that amount each year anyway.
You would know better on the numbers, but I just don't think anyone needs to be "cut"

How does Stanford do it? They have 36 varsity sports compared to Notre Dame's 26.



Stanford has decided that a heavy 3rd of their class
by fontoknow  (2020-02-20 11:44:53)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

should be varsity athletes. That's their choice.

What problem does adding varsity wrestling solve? Does that net ND more than adding varsity wrestling costs? It might. I'm just pointing out the obstacles that have to be overcome, and a hard enrollment ceiling of 2050 per first year class that is based on dorm capacity is certainly something to consider.
You could use that query for every non-revenue sport at ND
by NDoggie78  (2020-02-20 16:08:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Most non-revenue sports don't solve any problems (other than balancing Title IX requirements). Most don't net ND more than their costs. Wrestling does have a prior history at Notre Dame so there is that. It may benefit some 2 sport athletes although most concentrate on only one sport these days.

I was a wrestler in high school, come from a family of wrestlers, my brother wrestled for ND, so I have a personal interest in the sport and so naturally I think it's worthwhile. I think the enrollment numbers can be overcome and I don't think the Stanford model is crazy (maybe not 36 varsity sports) - they get a lot of notoriety for always being at or near the top in the collegiate rankings, Director's Cup, while not losing any of their academic credibility.

Cost shouldn't be an obstacle for Notre Dame, but I don't see them adding varsity sports unless they get an earmarked donation
when you make changes, you need a business case
by fontoknow  (2020-02-20 22:29:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

You're requesting a change ... even a change back. When most of the non revenue women's sports were added, they were fixing a clear problem (as misguided as you might think Title IX is, compliance is an important issue facing most colleges and universities).

The enrollment issue can be overcome, but it is zero sum right now. Adding a new set of admits means subtracting it someplace else.