Only about 18 pts left.

Lead back to 13 after Foil

T&F does 10/8/6-1 for the top 8 places. ND men beat Princeton men 22 to 13.5. But the Princeton women have been phenomenal as all 6 fencers will place in the top 8 and they have 3 fencers who might win it all. ND women's had 5 fencers place top 8 (one was 9 but I gave her a .5 point for tying with 8). Total women's T&F points would be 22.5 or 24.5 depending on if Muhari wins or gets second. Princeton lowest T&F score would be 33 and could be as high as 41 if they win all 3 disciplines. 33+13.5 is 46.5 and ND's max point using Track & Field scoring would be 46.5 if Muhari wins.

Glad there is a different way to score for fencing so ND has clinched. I think swimming does it the same way as T&F.

2 Epees and a Foil.

The scoring link says which seemed the same before the women's finals:
1.ND 188
2 Princeton 175
3.Columbia 156
4.Harvard 134

The team score is based on the total wins during the round robin competition. That's why qualifying 12 fencers is important.

Went doen 0-2 and then rattled off 13 straight tiuches (2 simultaneous touches included). She gave up two and than another simul made it 14-7. She scored the last point to win 15-7

M Saber(Linder)
W Epee (Muhari)

Three semi-finalist

Muhari is only a Freshman so barring international competitions we get to look forward to her blade for a few years

It would have been nice to see Amita Berthier advance, but it wasn't to be.

She had a good three point run at the end but down to much too quickly

It would be good if it's one of the seniors' bouts that clinches it.

2 fewer points available for Princeton in Round 5.

We apparently beat her twice

Up to an 8 pt swing

Hsieh is the reigning Epee champ and has won 13 of 15 bouts as has Muhari.

But Princeton's two Epees are 3 and 5 and Lin (also 13 wins, in 3rd by Indicator) finished 5th last year.


Saber looks close as each team had one do well today and one just mediocre. But our mediocre was runnerup last year (Greenbaum) so she could have a good outing tomorrow.

Taking 3 of 4 H2H in Foil could prove significant.

Head to head will definitely be key. Even then, Princeton will have to do even better than yesterday to catch us, which is unlikely.

Equal w/l in other weapons halfway through rnd 4

Princeton notched 6 wins in foil but ND still has a few matches left in Rnd 4

Rnd 5 of Saber halfway down both teams are 2 and 2

It is pretty much a wrap but princeton still technically in it

With the men's 15 pt cushion, a solid showing in the first 3 rounds could almost put this to bed.

ND 159
Princeton 146
Columbia 130


Epee
ND 26
Princeton 24
Harvard 20
OSU 18

ND 26 and in 1st and 2nd with 13 each
Princeton 3rd and 5th with 13 and 11 pts

ND has H2H with princeton in Rnd 4 as well as OSU (number 4 individual Epee)
Princeton has H2H with Harvard (20 pts) in rnd 5


Foil
Princeton 24 pts; 1st and 4th
Columbia 21 pts; 3rd and 6th
Nd 20 pts; 2nd and 11th
Harvard 19 pts; 5th and 9th

ND took 3 of 4 in the H2H with Princeton to get back within 4; ND vs Columbia in rnd 4; Princeton vs Harvard in rnd 5

Saber
Princeton 21 pts; 1st and 9th
ND 19 pts; 7th and 11th
Harvard 18 pts; 3rd and 14th
Columbia 4th and 19th

ND vs Princeton in rnd 4; princeton vs Columbia rnd 5. ND also faces the #2 individual Saber (of Brandeis) in rnd 5

The 15 bout lead is huge. Go Irish!

Team totals
ND 105
Princeton 87
Columbia 84

Epee
ND 11
Princeton 10
Columbia 5

Princeton and Columbia were in the same pool so got there H2H out of the way. Princeton spanked Columbia.

ND won't face either until tomorrow

After 2nd round of epee and 1st of Foil

Teams
ND 121
PRINCETON 107
COLUMBIA 102


Epee
Princeton/ND 18
Harvard/OSU 13
Columbi 11

Foil
Columbia/Princeton 12
ND/Harvard 9

Two team race


ND 144
Princeton 131
Columbia 115

Epee done for the day
ND 26
Princeton 24
Harvard 20
OSU 18
Columbia 14

Foil through 2
Princeton 19
Columbia 16
ND/Harvard 14

Saber after 1
Princeton 11
ND 10
Harvard 8
Columbia/Penn 6

than the ND men?

Over the last decade I think the women's team has been stronger, but obviously the men have had to be decently strong to win as many NCs over the last 6 years.

All 3 weapons have started their round 4.


ND doing well in all 3 so far. 7 wins of 8 bouts

The men extending the lead so far is really impressive.

ND 94
Columbia 79
Princeton 77
OSU 65 (only 5 men and 5 women)
Penn 55

Epee ND 8th and 11th
(only contending Teams)
Columbia 29
OSU 27
ND 26
Harvard 23
Penn 22
Princeton 21

Foil, 3rd and 4th place (matchesnlater)
ND 39
Princeton 32
Columbia 28
OSU/Penn 22
Harvard 21

Saber, 1st (match later) and 14th Jared Smith had a bad day, went 1 for 8
ND 29
Princeron 24
Columbia 22
OSU 16 (1 fencer)
Penn 11 (1 fencer)
Harvard 0 no fencers

The men have done their part for the team and have set up the women to clinch it on Sunday. Now they go for individual bragging rights.

Before giving up 3 straight and then closing 5-3 to win 15-6

Epee had some craziness in its first semi.

Not really sure what happened. One fenecer lost his weapon.

Olivares match had a brief delay as he appeared to be cramping in his right quad.

I was watching the scoring and saw a 5 minute timer, which must have been the medical time.

Was ahead 13-11 and gave up 3 straight. Before raking the last two.

He was awarded a point (11th i think) for his opponenet geting a red card.

Luke Linder led the field and will compete for the indivodual Saber title.

Overall ND extended its team lead over Columbia but i am entering a meeting and dont have the exact #s in front of me.

Foil mem are currently in 3rd and 4th (3 way tie with 2nd) so can make it to finals if they show well in rd 5. No head to head matches with 1st or 2nd.

Epee rd 4 had 7 of 8 wins. Still an outside chance of making finals but doubtful.

Believe ND held on to 3rd and 4th.

Epee is not fairing well in round 5 so no shot at a finalist.

Well update team scores one Epee is complete.

lace School Total Remain MS MF ME WS WF WE Ind TS
1. Notre Dame 45 206 11 18 16 +62 260
2. Columbia/Barnard 40 206 8 13 19 +49 273
3. Princeton University 34 208 9 12 13 +25 234
4. Ohio State University 34 170 5 13 16 +20 221
5. Pennsylvania, University of 31 193 3 11 17 +2 218

Amongst those in contention for the Team Championship

Penn and Columbia 9, OSU 8, ND 7, Princeton 6, Harvard 4

Olympian Fencer Mohamed Elsayed of LIU (not in contention) undefeated through 7 (including against NDs men).



Edit: there is a discrepancy between Fencing timelive and escrimeresults.com on a harv a rd fencer. One shows 3 wins the other shows four. Weird.

Columbia as well with a fencer credited with 6 wins on one and 5 on the other

Way to early status after 2 rds of epee, 1st round of Foil

Colubia 24
ND 22
Princeton/OSU 20
Penn 19
Harvard 14

Epee done for the day, after 3 Rds ND holding its own with 16 pts.

Columbia-19
Penn 17
ND/OSU 16
Princeton 13

Foil is done with 2 rounds (3rd in progress)
ND dominate with 18 of 21 possible Pts

ND 18
OSU/Columbia 13
Princeton 12

Saber just finished Rd 1. A Fencer in Princetons pool had to withdraw so they have one less possible point for now

ND 11
Princeton 9
Columbia 8
OSU 6 (only one fencer qualified)
Penn 3 (only one fencer qualified)

Overall Standings

ND 45
Columbi40
OSU 35
Princeton 34
Penn 31
Harvard 22

Team totals:

ND 62
Columbia 52
Princeton 47 (2 bouts behind)
OSU 44
Penn 40
Harvard 27
Duke 22

**I am not tracking SJU or PSU as they have no shot at the Team title. I will probably stop tracking Duke tomorrow**

ND Men up 10 on Columbia with 46 Bouts remaining (Princeton has 48 bouts; see saber note below)



A second Saber dropped out so only 22 possible points

Foil finished at:

ND 25
Princeton/OSU 18
Columbia 17
Penn 16

Saber. Every team has been in a pool with one of the withdrawn except Princeton has had both of them so are behind 2 possible points (or everyone else is ahead 1 or 2 depending on #of Sabers).

ND 21
Columbia / Princeton 16
Duke 15
OSU 10 (1 fencer)
Penn 7 (1 fencer)

What an amazingly great day for the men. It didn’t look great at the outset with epee, but they got a bit more on track and then foil and saber kicked butt. Looking forward to see if they can keep it going tomorrow. I haven’t looked, but assume that the Princeton “bouts remaining” discrepancy is due to the two contestants that pulled.

Today.

So they will have two full pools of 4 tommorrow in saber (16 bouts as a team) where as the rest of the schools I am tracking (only those with 8 or more qualifiers...10 after i drop Duke tomorrow) will only have 14 (assuming they have 2 fencers...penn and OSUbonly have 1 so willbactually have 7 bouts tomorrow).

Sabre. 1 (tied but higher Indicator) and 6

Foil
2 (tied with 1 but lower indicator) and 4th (tied with 3 but lower indicator)

Epee
11 and 13 (both tied with 10th bit lower indicators)