an aside/trivia- only ND BB player to transfer to Kentucky
by olson (2020-05-28 10:45:08)

In reply to: Notre Dame - Kentucky Men’s Basketball Series Announced  posted by Kayo


Ralph Jackowski (see link) a member of the ND 1934/35 ND Frosh football and basketball teams.....a HB in football from Chicago St Rita

Played one yr of varsity BB at ND & ND 'B' team in football as a soph. = then transferred to KY -where he also played both sports




FWIW Ty Proffitt transferred to a Kentucky school
by Ajax  (2020-06-03 13:47:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Bill Clinton's unofficial alma mater- Morehead State.

Proffitt was the 4th member of one of the unheralded HS class with Abro/Scott/Nash.


Known as "Jackowski's Folly" *
by Notra_Dahm  (2020-05-28 13:00:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


history of each ND-Ky BB game -with box scores
by olson  (2020-05-28 10:51:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

link is from a Kentucky BB site

click on the score of each game to see the box score


Austin Carr vs Kentucky
by olson  (2020-05-28 15:07:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Austin had some big games vs Kentucky

23, 43, 52 (in NCAA tourney), and 50 pts

Carr also scored 41 pts for the ND Frosh vs the Ky Frosh (ND Frosh won 101-75)

That ND Frosh team (with Collis Jones & Carr) only lost 1 game...that loss was the game before this Kentucky Frosh victory- when ND Frosh lost to Marquette Frosh & Dean 'the dream' Meminger 77-80...Carr had 29 pts & Meminger had 37....and Collis Jones had 18 pts-playing for the first time ever at forward(Jones had only played center in HS)

ND Frosh had a later rematch with the Marquette Frosh (who were undefeated)....this time ND won 98-83...leading the entire game....Carr scored 33 & Meminger had 42 for the losers


ND Frosh usually played the Marquette Frosh twice (back in the day before Frosh became eligible for the varsity)- home & away

Just curious
Anyone else remember John Shumate and Larry? McNeil getting tossed out of a Marquette-ND Frosh game for fighting??


Yeah, I remember that fight.
by CourtTV  (2020-05-31 22:47:58)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Don’t remember who started what, but John Shumate was never one to back down. ND really missed his on-court toughness the following year when he was sidelined by blood clots. The 1971-72 season with just 6 wins would not have been that dismal had he been playing.

One upside to freshman ineligibility in that era was the opportunity provided by the Frosh games to eyeball the newcomers playing extended minutes in competitively-balanced games. In addition to Shumate and Larry McNeil, the other clear talent on the floor that night was a lightning-quick MU guard named Marcus Washington. Missing from the floor that night, sadly, was ND’s answer to Washington - Sam Puckett, the Chicago legend in the 1970 recruiting class who never saw one minute on the court at ND, freshman or varsity. To get a wistful feeling of what might have been, see the 1997 Chicago Trib article linked below.


Dean The Dream was one of McGuire's all-time favorites. *
by G.K.Chesterton  (2020-05-28 18:41:33)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post