In reply to: an aside/trivia- only ND BB player to transfer to Kentucky posted by olson
Austin had some big games vs Kentucky
23, 43, 52 (in NCAA tourney), and 50 pts
Carr also scored 41 pts for the ND Frosh vs the Ky Frosh (ND Frosh won 101-75)
That ND Frosh team (with Collis Jones & Carr) only lost 1 game...that loss was the game before this Kentucky Frosh victory- when ND Frosh lost to Marquette Frosh & Dean 'the dream' Meminger 77-80...Carr had 29 pts & Meminger had 37....and Collis Jones had 18 pts-playing for the first time ever at forward(Jones had only played center in HS)
ND Frosh had a later rematch with the Marquette Frosh (who were undefeated)....this time ND won 98-83...leading the entire game....Carr scored 33 & Meminger had 42 for the losers
ND Frosh usually played the Marquette Frosh twice (back in the day before Frosh became eligible for the varsity)- home & away
Just curious
Anyone else remember John Shumate and Larry? McNeil getting tossed out of a Marquette-ND Frosh game for fighting??
Don’t remember who started what, but John Shumate was never one to back down. ND really missed his on-court toughness the following year when he was sidelined by blood clots. The 1971-72 season with just 6 wins would not have been that dismal had he been playing.
One upside to freshman ineligibility in that era was the opportunity provided by the Frosh games to eyeball the newcomers playing extended minutes in competitively-balanced games. In addition to Shumate and Larry McNeil, the other clear talent on the floor that night was a lightning-quick MU guard named Marcus Washington. Missing from the floor that night, sadly, was ND’s answer to Washington - Sam Puckett, the Chicago legend in the 1970 recruiting class who never saw one minute on the court at ND, freshman or varsity. To get a wistful feeling of what might have been, see the 1997 Chicago Trib article linked below.