Grayson Allen at it again
by El Kabong (2022-01-23 11:04:31)

Guy remains a piece of shit and K remains a hypocrite for enabling him




Simple: Suspend Allen until Caruso returns from injury
by knutesteen  (2022-01-24 08:48:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Unpaid.


I'm a Bucks fan and am surprised it was only one game.
by G.K.Chesterton  (2022-01-24 13:16:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He had been on good behavior with Bucks until then.


A bigger question to me is NBA acceptance of hard fouls
by SixShutouts66  (2022-01-24 18:12:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

at least against the non-marquee players. The NBA and its players seem to accept that as part of the game. I'm surprised the Dookie DB, with his long history, wasn't allowed more time off.


Elite P O S ! *
by other_guy  (2022-01-23 19:25:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


punk *
by 84david  (2022-01-23 18:57:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Suspended ONE game *
by SBJimbo  (2022-01-23 17:29:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Without pay. *
by PWK2  (2022-01-24 11:02:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I've got to be honest. I expected to see worse.....
by Marine Domer  (2022-01-23 17:13:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I think the arm grab to stop the layup is rather common, and the other arm swing appeared to be at the ball. Reckless? Sure. Malicious? Not so sure, though admittedly this punk doesn't deserve the benefit of much doubt. And he continues to have one of the most punchable faces in sports.


Same here. *
by Giggity_Giggity  (2022-01-23 20:23:05)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


His laughing at the end just shows what a piece.........
by Ty Webb  (2022-01-23 15:32:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

of shit he is.


Kept waiting for a Bull to smash GA.
by PWK2  (2022-01-23 15:23:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I guess there's a difference between basketball and hockey.


Unfortunately. Cr*p like that is why there were enforcers at
by Grace91  (2022-01-24 00:30:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

one point in hockey. Now the role is much diminished, for the better. But there was a reason for it, and it did serve its purpose.


Well, it still exists, thankfully at a lesser level.
by PWK2  (2022-01-24 11:01:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The Wild are good this year, and I've watched a lot of them. When Kiril Kaprizov gets boarded, you'd best believe one of the Wild (probably Foligno) is going to drop the gloves.

With that said, you only see fighting once every four games or so. That's much better than the Eighties.


Who is Bulls enforcer ? Team should have rushed him! * *
by LAW83  (2022-01-23 14:37:12)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Artis Gilmore? *
by Twinkie the Kid  (2022-01-25 09:07:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Dennis Awtrey? *
by rick  (2022-01-23 20:33:58)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Sheesh. What an absolute jerk. *
by mocopdx  (2022-01-23 13:41:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Pat’s reaction was great. *
by Stonebreaker9  (2022-01-23 11:48:12)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Cant believe nobody has Kent Bensond him yet? *
by supernd  (2022-01-23 11:34:58)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Or Luke Witte. *
by Dillon  (2022-01-23 13:16:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Luke Witte Update
by jamnd74  (2022-01-23 16:14:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Throwback Thursday: College Basketball's Most Brutal Brawl, and the Forgiveness That Followed
A 1972 fight between Ohio State and Minnesota left Luke Witte with lasting damage—but also produced a surprising story of interpersonal healing.
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By Brian Blickenstaff
February 2, 2017, 12:08pm




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It began with a letter. Ten years after Luke Witte was treated with 27 stitches to the face—ten years after the most infamous on-court brawl in college basketball history—he received a note in the mail from Corky Taylor.

Witte had been a star center for Ohio State; Taylor, a center for Minnesota. On January 25, 1972, the schools played at Minnesota's Williams Arena. Late in the game, Taylor landed a left hook square on Witte's ear, touching off a brutal minute-and-a-half-long melee.

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A concussion had wiped Witte's memory of the second half of the game. A damaged cornea left him with reduced eyesight, even now. Only here he was, in 1982, looking at an unexpected message from Taylor, the opening gesture in what would become, remarkably, an ongoing story of forgiveness and redemption for three of the players involved—and countless people who never even saw the game.

"Like most humans, we put some things away and we want to pick them back up, and I probably did that for a while, too," Witte says today. "[But] I'd be an angry person the rest of my life, and I choose not to do that."

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Witte had every reason to be bitter. Video of the fight is grainy, shot low to the court. It still has the power to shock. The Buckeyes are leading by six, with less than a minute left in the game. On a breakaway, Witte catches a pass on the baseline, begins a layup, and is fouled hard by two Minnesota players, Taylor and Clyde Turner. As Witte gets to his feet, Taylor offers him a hand. Witte accepts. Pulling Witte up, Taylor knees him in the groin.

Both benches clear. Players chase each other around the floor. The camera jerks back to Witte, who is lying on the ground. Ron Behagen, Minnesota's starting center, who had fouled out earlier in the game, stands over Witte, his left leg raised. As Behagen stomps down, he loses his balance, almost as if he expected Witte's face to have a little more give.

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When the video cuts out, Witte is still lying in a heap.


The brawl changed his life. Changed his love of the game, too. Witte, a talented seven-footer, went on to play three years for the Cleveland Cavaliers, where he relished the intense play at the NBA level and the friendships he made. But the simple joy he once felt? What happened in Minnesota had taken something.

"I loved the people I played with," he says. "I loved the competition. It had all been altered. It wasn't the same anymore. There was some joy gone, and probably some intensity that I played with was gone. It was very disheartening."

A decade after the brawl, journalists were writing retrospective stories. Witte had been reliving the incident, or what he could remember of it, in interview after interview. What he didn't know was that the fight had been on Taylor's mind, too. Taylor had two children who had begun to play basketball, and they were getting a lot of questions about their father.

That's when the letter showed up. It was the first time any Minnesota player had reached out to Witte, and the beginning, he realized, of something bigger. Something he had been waiting for.

"He felt a strong desire to reach out, and I really appreciate him doing that," Witte says. "It led us to a point where we could have conversations and talk through some of the things each of us was feeling."

The initial conversation took place by phone, in what Witte recalls as being a stilted discussion. The two men had competed against each other, hard. One had assaulted the other. But they'd never properly met. With all that baggage, having a get-to-know-you talk was, well, awkward.

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They worked through it, though, and in 2000 the two men met in person for the first time. By then, Witte was living in North Carolina. He used some frequent flier miles to visit Taylor in the Twin Cities. At one point, the two men were sitting on Taylor's porch, when Taylor announced that he had a surprise for Witte.

Clyde Turner, the man who had initially fouled Witte way back in 1972, walked out to say hello.

Witte turned and said to Turner, "Gosh, I'd know you anywhere." After catching up for a while, the three men went into Taylor's den and watched film of the 1972 brawl. Witte discovered that Taylor and Turner had different videos of the incident, shot from different angles. As the three watched each one, Witte and Turner sat on the couch, silent. Taylor paced the room, smoking nervously.

After the first round, "nobody said a thing," Witte says. "I said, 'Watch it again.' And so we watched it again." It was only then that all of the emotion, pent up for so long, began to pour out. The three men went down the roster of each team, asking each other what their former teammates and coaches were up to. How have they handled the situation? Are they still healing? Are they still angry?

Witte discovered that many of the players on both teams still struggled with their memories of January 25, 1972. Among the Ohio State players, there remained a great deal of anger. On the Minnesota side, many former players seemed to be in denial, pretending as though the brawl never happened.

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Corky Taylor passed away in 2012. Following his death, his wife told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that the brawl was "a situation he spent the rest of his life trying to live down." Witte and Turner remain in touch. It's unclear what sort of healing, if any, has since taken place among the other men, now in their 60s, who filled the rosters of the two teams.

"Different people have had different reactions to it," Witte says. "Obviously, they have to figure it out for themselves, but Clyde, Corky, and my prayers were that they would be able to come to a place and to understand how they can be relieved of this binding that's on them."


LUKE WITTE, PREACHING IN 2012. YOUTUBE

Witte speaks from deeply felt personal experience. In 1990, he went to seminary. Today, he works for Marketplace Chaplains, an organization offering multi-denominational pastoral care to businesses. Witte directs about 70 chaplains in the Carolina region, and often ministers people on loss, crisis management, forgiveness, and everything else that goes into being a chaplain.

The decision to become a pastor, Witte says, was in no way related to the brawl. But the incident is an obvious teaching tool, a contemporary message of forgiveness. It was a kind of defining moment in his post-basketball life, and it comes up in his pastoral work all the time. He last brought it up just two weeks ago, at a company gathering of about 200 people. He spoke about responsibility, and how we all have a duty to build positive legacies. "I spoke about forgiveness," he says.

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Good for Witte.
by Dillon  (2022-01-23 16:57:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It takes a big man to be able to accept an apology with grace.
Was David Winfield on that Minnesota team?


Not only on the team but one of the worst actors that day
by ronniewoo  (2022-01-23 17:20:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He ended up being a real stand up citizen in his baseball career but its been hard for me to ever forget or forgive his actions that day. What I don't know is if he ever apologized or took agency for his behavior that day.


I thought that he had participated. *
by Dillon  (2022-01-23 19:41:21)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


That incident remains to this day
by ronniewoo  (2022-01-23 13:33:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

the most violent and dangerous incident that has happened in American sports. Its an outrage that some of the Minnesota basketball players were not charged with a crime. A pox on Bill Musselman for creating the conditions that allowed that to happen. Luke Witte was a burgeoning All American center and he was never the same after that game.


Rudy Tomjanovich would like a word
by TWO  (2022-01-23 13:59:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Nothing compares to the sucker punch Kermit Washington took on him. Could have killed him.


I watched that game. One ok f the OSU players on that twam
by Irishlib  (2022-01-23 13:51:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

is a,friend of mine. I still can't believe that anybody on that Minnesota team wasn't prosecuted.


I was watching as it happened.
by ronniewoo  (2022-01-23 16:22:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I was a big OSU Basketball fan at the time and was in absolute shock at what I was seeing. It was terrifying even seeing it on TV. I hope your friend was not one of the OSU players who was badly hurt. Mark Wager and one other player were hospitalized in addition to Luke Witte.


Refresh my memory. Kent Bensoned? I know
by Homeboy73  (2022-01-23 11:47:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Notre Dame recruited him hard, and we came close to getting him.


I assume this (music NSFW) (link)
by Stonebreaker9  (2022-01-23 11:50:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Exactly *
by supernd  (2022-01-23 22:25:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Thanks. Did not remember that one. *
by Homeboy73  (2022-01-23 16:08:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Classics *
by LAW83  (2022-01-23 14:43:25)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post