Reasonable points here
by garbageplate (2022-11-27 21:23:43)

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I'm still stuck on the point about other conferences, particularly the Big Ten, not offering ND a partial deal. We're already a member of the league for hockey. At this last round of realignment, it was widely reported that the Big Ten was done after adding USC or UCLA unless ND were to come calling, in which case they'd accept us in a heartbeat.

Why wouldn't the league add ND for hoops, baseball and soccer? I'm stipulating here and elsewhere in this thread that it would not be on the same terms (i.e., full access to the minor bowls).

Can you acknowledge the college sports world is different
by wpkirish  (2022-11-28 14:31:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

today than it was when we joined the ACC or that Hockey is entirely different from the other sports?

Sounds stupid to say this but you have to give something to get something. What would the Big 10 gain from us agreeing to play a slate of conference games similar to what we did with the ACC. Keep in Mind at the time we joined we had been playing 3-4 Big 10 games a year for a long time. What do they gain in an ACC type deal 2 games and they give up bowl access when they already have 4 schools with long histories at the top of the sport?

I am sure they want us now because the NCAA is headed to a world of 4 conferences and you will need all the names you can get.
The college sports world is constantly changing
by garbageplate  (2022-11-28 15:35:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I'd like to get out of the ACC deal right now.

We're locked in until 2036, but if I had my way, we'd be actively negotiating out of it right now. With a 12 team playoff on the horizon, the notion of tying our decision to access to irrelevant bowls seems increasingly absurd. Who cares whether we get to be in the Cheez-It Bowl?
So you would go to the Big 10? *
by wpkirish  (2022-11-28 15:40:26)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I want to be in the Big East
by garbageplate  (2022-11-28 16:09:32)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

At least for basketball. It would be a step down for some of the other sports, admittedly, but a better fit overall and we would recapture full independence for football.

Is that clearly a step up in terms of BB. ACC is admittedly
by wpkirish  (2022-11-28 18:55:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Down compared to last years but Big East has two ranked teams and ACC has three. As the NCAA evolves into super conferences you are going to need to be in one for football and for most other sports it is an inferior conference.

If independence is your goal a seat at the table through the ACC is probably the Best option. As said elsewhere Big 10 / SEC will be all or nothing. PAC 12 is dying if USC and UCLA leave and same with the Big 12.