The NBA has finally jumped the Shark
by HTownND (2019-01-29 19:11:05)

And it took a unibrow to do it.


Kareem Abdul-Jabbar forced Milwaukee to trade him
by 1978Irish  (2019-01-31 14:24:26)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

to the Lakers back in 1975. What Davis is doing isn't anything new.


Its in the CBA now that you cant publicly demand a trade.
by 84david  (2019-02-02 11:16:34)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The commish would be well within his authority
to levy a huge fine. Not so in the 70's.


He had already won a championship *
by DBCooper  (2019-01-31 16:53:22)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


That turned out to be a good trade for the Bucks
by sprack  (2019-01-31 15:32:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Interestingly, the Bucks had the exact same record in the year before the trade and the year after. The reason was that Kareem by that time was close to being a one man team after Oscar Robertson retired. The Bucks ended up getting Elmore Smith, Brian Winters, Dave Meyers and Junior Bridgeman. The Bucks ended up retiring the numbers of Winters and Bridgeman, so the trade did work out for them in the long run.

Yes, Kareem won 5 championships with the Lakers and had a brilliant career there, but he was hardly a one man team.

And as HTownND says below, Kareem kept it private between him and the Bucks management. He also gave them a full year's notice before his contract expired.


As a Bucks fan, I was not in favor of Winters' jersey
by G.K.Chesterton  (2019-01-31 16:56:40)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

being retired. I was at the Raptors game earlier this month and was reminded that the Bucks already have eight (8) retired jerseys (will be nine when they retire Marques Johnson's number in March). Possibly the same feeling for retiring Lanier's jersey.

This, for a team that has only won one NBA title. The Bucks haven't been to an NBA finals since Jabbar was traded and they haven't even won a playoff series since 2001.


Indeed
by HTownND  (2019-01-31 15:43:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

And it's not like the Lakers started winning right away

They didn't make the playoffs his first year in LA
Then they had a few first round, second round and Conf Finals losses before the 79-80 season culminated in the title with Magic and Wilkes. It wasn't until his 5th season in LA that he won a title (after having spent 6 in Milwaukee)

It took a little while for all the pieces to get there (they also changed coaches as West completed his transition from the bench to the front office).


Also
by HTownND  (2019-01-31 15:51:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I've always thought it fascinating how the rich got richer in the early 80s.

The Lakers had a core of Jabbar, Magic and Wilkes that was winning and competing for titles.

And yet they were still able to draft guys like Worthy and trade for Byron Scott.

Who knew that #1 pick from Cleveland would be #1 overall (to get Worthy)


This reminds that Red Auerbach whined when the Lakers
by G.K.Chesterton  (2019-01-31 16:53:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

won the title and then had the #1 overall draft pick.


I didn’t know about that
by HTownND  (2019-01-31 17:54:02)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But I remember being amazed upon doing some digging, to find out how the Lakers got Worthy.

I had assumed they tanked a year with Magic and Jabbar, but didn’t realize they got it because of a trade. It was an amazing master stroke by the Lakers.


I think it's a lot different
by HTownND  (2019-01-31 14:34:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Two things

1) Kareem gave the Bucks a ton of notice and didn't go public
2) Kareem didn't give them 1 team only (NY and some other places were also options)


The problem with Davis is the public nature of all of this, and basically trying to force the next "super" team, while maximizing his contract.

If he wants to go to LA, great, go once your contract is up, for a little less money, but don't publicly screw over the Pelicans to make it happen.


I don't think he can sign a supermax with the Lakers
by irishaddict  (2019-01-31 14:51:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Even if he is traded there this year.

I believe only the drafting team allows one to sign a supermax. See items #23 and 24.


It's possible
by HTownND  (2019-01-31 15:11:46)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But I thought Harden was able to sign one after being traded to Houston

And there is this:

"If he didn't sign, however, the Pelicans would likely trade him rather than risk losing him for nothing in the summer of 2020. That would also allow Davis to potentially sign a supermax deal with his new team. Teams believing Davis would be willing to sign a long-term extension to stay with them would offer bigger packages to the Pelicans than teams where Davis staying would be unlikely."

Davis Article


I wonder if Stern would allow a trade to the Lakers
by Groundhog  (2019-01-30 01:11:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Given that he denied Chris Paul going there, it would be interesting to hear his thoughts on the matter.

I also wonder if the small market owners will get fed up with Silver.


Yeah
by HTownND  (2019-01-30 11:07:13)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

This could be a crossing the Rubicon for the NBA.


I understand he wants to move on, but all reports are that his representatives have told everyone that he intends to sign with the Lakers so any trade is just a rental.

Again, I understand his point, but the NBA is already one of the most player friendly leagues on the planet. He signed that 5 year deal with NO in 2016 with an opt out after the 19/20 season.

But to basically force a trade to the Lakers now, so he can sign a super max extension with them, versus the far smaller contract he would get signing as a FA after 2020 will not go over well with anyone.


especially when his agent is same as LeBron *
by DBCooper  (2019-01-30 11:17:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


And Lebron owns the agency
by miamioh_irishfan  (2019-02-01 00:22:11)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The whole thing sucks and makes the league look horrible.


He tampered with himself.
by bizdomer09  (2019-01-29 20:48:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He could go blind from that.

Link added for those not following, if you care to know what we are talking about.


They say that tampering with yourself
by voidoid  (2019-01-29 20:53:13)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

puts hair on your eyebrows.