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That's a great point. by ndtnguy

If I had to reframe Barney's question, I think it would be "what is a boat?" Obviously the guy who builds the better boat will win a boat race. That doesn't detract from the need for seamanship. But there is such a thing as "a boat" and there is such a thing as "not a boat."

I think the sense that some people have looking at these is that they are getting close to being "not a boat."