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Yep. I imagine it is similar to many states by btd

It was an eye opener for me to go on tours with her before she selected Clemson and to now go through the Clemson experience. As I said in the opening post -- I made a lot of false assumptions on things ND did as being standard at any school. Not even remotely close to being true.

I'll get another state school to compare to soon. Daughter two starts at Florida State in June. This time as in state tuition though. FSU couldn't understand why I asked questions like this during the admitted student tour:

1) Do your dorms have mold growing all over the walls?
2) Do you have working elevators in your dorms?
3) Do you have working air conditioning in your dorms (Clemson and SC are southern weather schools -- not like ND)
4) Do you actually feed kids on the weekend or do you close the dining halls for each weekend but make me pay for it anyway?