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If that the plane of the goal line, and it was a ND player by Endthecursein05

holding the ball out there instead, and it was called not a touchdown, as a ND fan would you argue that the ball crossed the plane?
I understand what the argument is here, but I see the tip of the ball on the line. In the other scenario I present, I would say it is touchdown (take out if he was down or not).