This is not a vent board or any other kind of therapy. Before you hit the POST button, ask yourself if your contribution will add to the level of discussion going on.

Important notes on articles:

• Please do not copy entire articles into your post; rather, provide links to them.. We are now links-only for ALL Internet publications. If only a small portion of the article pertains to your post, Fair Use allows you to copy those one or two paragraphs, provided you cite the author's name and the publication for which he writes. Otherwise, put a link in the HTTP Link box.
• Even if you're copying a reference to an article, provide a link to the page from which the article came. We're trying to cut down on duplicate topics, and the posting process will check the link to your article to see if it's already being discussed on this board. At the very least, you'll save yourself some grief on the boards.
• If your first reaction after reading the article you're going to share is the author is uninformed / stupid / a jerk / all of the above, it's not worth sharing with anyone. Not every article needs to be discussed. The more the hair-pulling articles are discussed (e.g. ESPN Page 2), the more the authors will write hair-pulling articles.

Post being replied to

Disagree by JBrock18

Though I didn’t play OL and I respect that you did , I played college football as well. In a 3 point stance leaning over yes you can see the ball. Nowadays tackles do not have their hand on the ground in some situations and even when they do they are constantly flirting with being lined up in the backfield illegally in order to gain an advantage on the outside speed rushers. Look at the bow in offensive lines now. They look like a recurve bow and arrow. At that angle it can be tough to see the ball. Furthermore their head is up and looking at the defenders lined up outside their outside shoulder or downfield. How many of our false starts occurred with our end man on the interior whether TE or tackle with their hand on the ground or at least bowed far behind the ball and not at a great angle to see it. I’m not sure and don’t have the time now to go back and watch but I’m guessing at least a few occurred with the line in a 2 point stance or bowed alignment.

I heard someone today say they talked to a coach in the PAC 12 and he said it’s impossible to find an offensive lineman west of the Rockies who gets in a 3 point stance. Line play has become much different across all of football at all ages. I live in western PA and 75% or more of the teams are running spread offenses with lineman in 2 point stances. Even the midget programs are doing it because that’s what the HS coaches want.

Perhaps getting in a 3 point stance in more 22 personnel and running the ball downhill would help. We know with this regime that ain’t happening though.


Edit : I went back and watched the opening drive just now. We do appear to have our hand on the ground but man is our left side of the OL basically in the backfield. Their is no way Eichenberg can see the ball. I wish I could send a photo. Perhaps they should tell him to move up where he can see