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Are you dense? by FL_Irish

I have stated no opinion whatsoever about what what level of compensation (if any) student-athletes should be entitled to. I have merely defended the obvious reality that being a serious Division I athlete is not a "part-time" commitment in terms of the hours involved when you aggregate those hours across an entire year of both in-season and off-season.

Student-athletes only travel from California to New Jersey a few times per year? Guess what they're doing when not traveling from California to New Jersey. Traveling from New Jersey to upstate New York. Which teams without access to chartered flights often do on buses. And, as already noted, travel was offered as just one example of the dozens of things that students-athletes are required to do that don't count toward the NCAA hour limit.

As you appear to need this spelled out for you like a 5 year old, allow me to do so. I'll use my wife's sport as an example.

Friday - Sunday: Travel and competition. 35 hours, minimum. Even if you're at home and there's no travel, those hours get filled up with other things (e.g., hosting recruits).

Monday: "Off." Except for any treatment, physical therapy, counseling, etc. you might need. Also a common day for stuff like community events and media. So call it 1-2 hours, minimum. But maybe there's a lift in there and/or a "captain's practice" which could push it to 3-5 hours.

Tuesday - Thursday: Practice. 2.5 hours per day, minimum. Lift/conditioning - 1 hour, minimum. Assorted team meetings - 1 hour, minimum. Plus all of the treatment, physical therapy, counseling, etc. from Monday again. Call it 5 hours per day, minimum.

We're now looking at around 55 hours per week in season. On a good week. Without anything that anyone is doing individually to get themselves better (remember all those stories during March Madness about the guys who stick around for 2 hours after practice working on free throws? Yeah - that takes time). And note that this doesn't include class or study hall, which I would allocate to the "student" side of the "student-athlete" equation.

In the "off season" (probably 5ish months out of the year in aggregate), let's call it 15 hours a week (although for many, it's quite a bit more).

Half a year spent working 55 hours per week and half a year spent working 15 hours per week does not a part-time job make.