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All time great? by CuzTeahan
I'm all for Liverpool fans enjoying their victory lap and no doubt following a Champions League with a Premier League trophy is a major accomplishment.
But two trophies in five years with Liverpool (the Club World Cup stuff is not a serious competition) without a serious effort on domestic cups does not make for a serious claim of greatness.
His German record is far more impressive with two leagues and four domestic cups in seven years in the Bundesliga.
All of this is nice and he had a chance to build on this record, but even among contemporaries, he is no Guardiola, Mourinho, or even Zidane, and when compared against all time greats he does not yet have a claim for making the group picture.