Hare wasn't really competing with Karlen for a spot, as
by Fighting_Artichoke (2024-04-22 13:52:08)

In reply to: She entered the Portal before Duffy even left. She must  posted by Raoul


Karlen is a 6'2" forward and Hare is a 5'9" shooting guard. Most of the Irish fans believe ND needs 2 front court players and a combo guard, so we could have grabbed both. Right now we only have 2 front court players (Koval and Maddy), a PG (Liv), a combo guard (Hannah, she's combo because I believe Miles will primarily run the point this season), 2 wings (Soni and Emma) and a 3/4 (Cass). Given our injury history, there is no way we should go into the Fall with only 7 players. 10 players seems like the minimum we should consider, and I'm not counting Kylee because she probably won't be available any time during the season (and if she appears, it will be late and she won't be up to speed).

I would prefer a "3 and D" guard, but effective ones are hard to get, so we'll hopefully get one that either has great range and is sufficient defensively, or a defensive stopper that is pretty effective offensively.

As for the front court, I envision someone who has the physical ability to play C, as Koval won't be able to play anywhere near 40 minutes/game (and I wouldn't want her to, anyway). This player should have the height and/or strength to defend effectively, but doesn't need to be much of an offensive threat (think Kylee). The other F position is more flexible, as that player would provide depth (for foul trouble/injury insurance).

Last season we got only two players from the portal, but we whiffed on one. I hope we bat at least 67% this year. I feel like we owe it to Maddy, Soni (and possibly Liv) to go all out this season for a championship.


Thinking About How Karlen Could Fit in With ND
by dillon77  (2024-04-22 16:12:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

As noted, she's 6'2" and is generally listed as a forward, but she played and positioned herself everywhere from the lane to the elbow and even beyond on offense. On defense, she'd cover post and big forwards, generally, but would also anchor a zone.

I could see Niele employing her in a "big but agile" lineup against certain teams, in either a zone or man-to-man, with Soni moving to the 2.

Well, we'll see how progress is going on this front.


Thanks for your insight. I think Karlen would be a great
by Fighting_Artichoke  (2024-04-22 19:16:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

addition, but I still think we need a defensive 5; not for most of our games, but for the games when we must defend one of the great bigs in today's game: Iriafen, Betts, Beers, Lee, or pretty much the entire South Carolina front court. Having someone to hamper a dominant big and absorb some fouls will be imperative if we have dreams of a championship.

Do you think Karlen could go against these bigs and hold her ground? She's not thin like Nat but she's only 6'2" and so she's giving up a lot of height. I didn't watch Marquette much so I cannot evaluate how she would perform in these types of situations. I know Maddy can provide some assistance, but that takes away from her offense and she can also be foul prone. Are 3 front court players (Westbeld, Karlen and Koval) enough to fill 2 positions in the tournament? Will all three be available in the postseason?


Absorbing fouls is a big reason for needing a second legit
by MPG  (2024-04-22 22:51:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

post player. Karlen is more of a stretch four than a low post player from what I have seen of her. As you noted, Maddy Westbeld does pick-up fouls when she has to defend the low post for more than a few minutes per game. Weimar would be a good time sharer with Koval; she was the Patriot League defensive player of the year...


FA, MPG: Yes, Having a Post and Forward Is Optimal...
by dillon77  (2024-04-23 10:34:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...in my opinion. If Niele could get Caitlyn Weimar to share time with Kate Koval, you'd add very tall and active post defender, which could make up for the absence of Kylee Watson. Karlen is an all-round forward, just like Maddy, but I could see her on the floor at the same time as Maddy, playing wing on a zone, with Soni moving up top. That would be a great big lineup.


This is what I think too. *
by 2Domer  (2024-04-23 01:39:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Agree on all points. To steal Dillons word if I had my
by MountainMan  (2024-04-22 14:29:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

"druthers" I would heist Karlen and Gardiner. (Gardiner is 6'3" and has decent size and strength. She is also a force on the offensive end and has two year of eligibility left, so she could slide into Maddy's spot when she leaves.). Combo or shooting guard, no "druthers", other than having played basketball previously. lol