Unborn are living human beings.
by Jfs86 (2024-02-21 15:16:51)

In reply to: Way to phrase your response  posted by vermin05

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The Democrat party's single most important issue is abortion. There is no item on the bill of rights that is even close. That is not a fringe position. Andrew Cuomo lit up the Empire State building when he signed the most radical abortion law.

Gov of Virginia was asked about a baby that survived attempted murder via abortion. He said would be decided by mother and advised by doctor. Again, these aren't fringe. They are the essence of the party.

Democrat party. You are full on Trump *
by ACross  (2024-02-21 21:37:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

it's called the Democratic Party
by ravenium  (2024-02-21 15:32:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Which is the formal name for it. Let's not start with that whole Trumpian slang thing, it's unbecoming of this board. I would say the same if someone started spouting "Rethuglicans".

It is fine if that is your opinion and feeling on the subject of abortion, but understand that we are governed by secular laws and many people will disagree with you. Compromise is how we govern.

Also remember that 50 years ago most Christian groups were in favor of many forms of abortion with only Catholics being the predominant anti-abortion group. This is to say that views change over the years - to suggest they've always been this way is highly hypocritical.
No intention to mislabel the party.
by Jfs86  (2024-02-21 16:14:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Just think of it as Republicans and Democrats. That was what auto complete offered.

My point is to counter the view of Sprack and others. Are not morally obligated to vote for Democrats. We do not have to refuse to vote for all Republicans.

Fifty years ago there were pro abortion Democrats and Republicans. There were pro Life people from both parties. The Church has been consistently anti abortion. I support that position. The government has used SWAT teams to arrest some supporters.

That is not a strong endorsement of compromise.
My view is simply that Trump is an insurrectionist
by sprack  (2024-02-21 16:19:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

And that "trumps" everything else. I happen to agree with overturning Roe v. Wade, by the way. I always have.

He should have been impeached, removed from office and never allowed to run for president again.

It has absolutely nothing to do with what party he's in, or rather, what party he has taken over. If he thought he could take over the Democratic (sic) Party, he would have tried that. He doesn't really believe in anything but himself.
I agree he doesn't believe in or care about anyone or
by Jfs86  (2024-02-21 16:29:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Anything but himself. However, the Democratic party believes in many things I believe are evil. And many of those things are the DNA of the party.

Dictatorship is evil
by sprack  (2024-02-21 16:53:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

I'm not talking about any Republican. I'm talking about Donald Trump.

Do you have respect for the Constitution of the United States? He doesn't. Maybe when he's convicted of it in a court of law it'll dawn on you.
And without the rights protected by hte Constitution, ...
by Barney68  (2024-02-21 19:44:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

how will he be able to make his anti-abortion stance known?

Ah, well. Single issue. Logic is not included.
So are other human beings
by vermin05  (2024-02-21 15:28:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

The Republican Party supports no limits on gun ownership, thanks to that lovely policy we have the worst gun crime rate in the developed world and get to witness children gunned down at mass shootings at least once a year. Are they not worthy of your support? It’s not so darn black and white.

If the Republicans nominated a guy who’s stated platform was that he was going to enslave the entire country, seize all the assets and rule as absolute monarch but came out strongly against abortion (because he wants more slaves) you would vote for him over Joe Biden. Right? If so so we have nothing to discuss as we will never see eye to eye. Hint I’m not an abortion fan either.
I'm glad you aren't a fan of abortion.
by Jfs86  (2024-02-21 17:18:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

It's intrinsically evil and participating in one automatically self excommunicates the person.

Regarding gun control, the Democrats are horrible. Look what we did with all those guns in Afghanistan. We didn't do any due diligence on the Taliban. Next we have NYC. A recent arrival only 15 shot up Time Square.My friend had a very difficult time getting a gun in NJ.

It would seem that the good law abiding people will follow the laws. But the scofflaws not so observant.
Good God Man, stop watching Fox News
by vermin05  (2024-02-21 17:42:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Remember when Plexico Buress was arrested for bringing a gun and it discharging a few years ago? Well the law he was convicted of breaking was overturned by SCOTUS on 2nd Amendment grounds. Maybe that tragedy in NYC doesn’t happen if the law still stood.